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Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

#191

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Only Apple go so far as to take such petty things to court. Most of their law suits can be generalised as "It looks similar from this side of the room"

I think I'm safe in assuming when you say "Only Apple" you mean Apple Computers. However, it was actually Apple Records who sued Apple Computers, not the other way around.

Yeah, I get the two confused all the time.

Oh wait

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

#193

OK, /g/entoomen, I will keep saying what I said in one of your threads. I feel it's strange that your IP is shared to the world together with your public key, so it is, in this sense, anti-anonymous. You cannot even use it with Tor, because it uses UDP.

This is why I believe in the federated client-server model. It is much easier to build a system with a few trusted parties that a system with zero trusted parties.

Eg in XMPP, only your server sees your IP address until you initiate some out-of-band p2p thing such as file transfer. Federated client-server architectures such as email and XMPP are also pretty well understood by now, especially email has been around a long time.

Trade-offs, trade-offs everywhere!

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

#194
post #55

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I think this is a matter of coincidence. The lock and chat bubble leads itself to a familiar look. I'm pretty sure you aren't the first person to think of such a concept, and neither are we. Besides, the icon was made by an anonymous person so it's not really like we can blame anyone.

If you don't know the identity of the person who created your logo, how can you be sure that they didn't steal it?

Sounds like you know a lot about this. Maybe it was you all along then. Just confess and save us all a lot of trouble.

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

#195

Whilst we're bashing them for IP theft, can anyone tell me why they're using the Github Octocat logo for their “Freedom” point? It doesn't appear to link to Github?

They host their code on github. If you scroll about 100 pixels down, they say that. I'm not sure whether that's still okay (the not linking part) but they're not just randomly using github images.

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

#196

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Neither of you guys invented these concepts: 1.) Using a padlock to represent computer security. 2.) Using a cartoon chat bubble to represent a way to chat on your computer. 3.) Using a little oval on top of a bigger oval to represent a person. Is it really that much of a stretch to combine the three? I would think that this concept would be pretty standard output from someone with even a moderate amount of visual co…

I don't think this argument is very powerful. If two authors come up with exactly the same sentence, no one would dismiss the coincidence on the grounds that "both sentences are built on top of an already existing language". What matters is how similar the precise combination of visual elements are in the two logos. Yes, it is possible that they were created independently. However, after looking at the "evidence" pro…

It is combining previous ideas together exactly as all those ridiculous patents we complain about do. I never understood why the programming/hacker community was so against designers being inspired by one another (even if that wasn't the case here) but yet so outraged at the ridiculous patents.

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

#197

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I don't really see the straw man here, but my larger point wasn't about this particular argument at all. Just the fickle commitment to the discussion.

I strongly disagreed that the concept was't unique and original. I'm clarifying though, not trying to give you flak; like I said, I don't much care about this leg of the thread.

It's saddening that so much of the thread is spent dwelling on this issue. I'd love to hear your take on the actual crypto at play here, if you have time for a critique?

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

#198
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Also might want to get a better server. I'm not trusting a messaging service whose marketing site I can't even reach.....

>I'm not trusting a messaging service whose marketing site I can't even reach You would rather trust a huge corporation instead of a community-developed project?

I suppose he meant that he can't trust a product of someone who can't event run his website, since the software may be unstable. Security is not involved. For a new product the website should give to the visitors the feel that you are a professional (I'm trying to give a constructive critic here)

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

#199
post #54

Oh, I see you helped yourselves to my Secure Chat logo - http://dribbble.com/shots/479881-Secure-Chat http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/165288 https://www.google.ca/search?q=secure+chat+logo - first page hit too Not cool at all, "cool guys around the world". -- (edit) Regardless of whether this was copied, over-inspired or independently conceived (but let's be realistic here), the generally accepted rule of the game…

Honestly, I don't see the concept being so unique and original that someone else couldn't have come up with it independently, and frankly the Tox logo has a much nicer balance (in the Tox logo, the person/keyhole works much better, whereas in yours it doesn't really work as a "keyhole" in my opinion) than the versions you linked. EDIT: The logo was originally made in /gd/ (4chan's graphic design board), and since the…

Where are my subs for RnL S2, Diaz?

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

#200
post #8

Github maintained by someone with a troll username? Comments like this: > IMPORTANT: release two major sanctioned UIs, one for autists, one with inbuilt support for the previous list so that plebs can't get confused with setting it up and autists don't complain about it getting in their way. de geso > I would suggest a "Advanced options" where the autists can rejoice with all kinds of options (and it doesn't frighten…

>Github maintained by someone with a troll username? Not to mention half of the commits were be nemdiggers (demNiggers) who seemed to have changed his name to Proplex (probably due to the reddit outcry)
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