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Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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This site is about hacking and startups, not political ranting. There are other sites for that.

Sorry, what? https://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/all&q=aaron+swar...

That hit close to home for a lot of people.

If you people want politics here, I guess you'll get it. But you won't get politics and a quality site about hacking and startups.

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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I don't know what the official stance here in germany is, but I talked to a member of the Autobahnpolizei (Highway Patrol) and he told me that while they have high powered cars that could follow most cars at high speed they will "give up" when hey feel they pose a danger to other drivers and concentrate on blocking exits etc. . But I have to say I have not seen a police chase in germany my whole life.

I live in Los Angeles, and it happens here all. the. fucking. time. It's a cultural thing, somehow. It a) makes no sense that the criminals are running. They never get away. Were are they going? Bakersfield? And b) A chopper or drone is sufficent 9 times out of 10. Proof- they're televised. From choppers.

Why do people make comments like these when deep down they know it's not true?

>They never get away.

This is false. I've personally watched los angeles based car chases where the person gets away even though there was a helicopter and units on the ground right behind him.

He was able to get underneath a lot of trees in a neighborhood, jump multiple fences in a row, and completely evaded the helicopter and police units on the ground.

Why do people like you make false statements like, "they never get away" when clearly people do? Do you live in some sort movie fantasy world where the "good guys always win"?

Anyways, running makes sense if you already have multiple felonys and/or know your crime is large enough to meet federal prosecution.

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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RCMP generally don't chase vehicles here in Canada for this exact reason.

Surely horses are poor at chasing cars?...

Speaking as a proud Canadian, you're absolutely right. It's aboot time we get those new fangled horseless carriages!

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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Your statement is true. The parent poster's statement is also true.

Not really, the typical action in many EU countries is to go for pursuit. This is case in Finland and Sweden, for example.

I don't know enough about all the countries to say either way, but if FI/SE were the only two countries with this policy (not saying they are - I've no idea) then it would still be accurate to say that the opposite is true in the vast majority of the EU.

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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They don't count those - they don't even count the baby that was in the SUV one guy stole and it flew out of the window during the police chase.

Are you seriously blaming the police for the death of that? Surely it is the guy's fault for stealing a car with a child in it and recklessly driving it.

"Blame" might be too far but there's definitely an argument to suggest they caused the baby's death, in that if they hadn't chased then maybe he wouldn't have driven so recklessly. Hence this whole discussion.

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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This is a good reminder to always be a defensive and aware pedestrian. Just because you have the light or the right-of-way doesn't mean you are guaranteed a safe crossing of the street. Whenever I cross an intersection as a pedestrian I always look both ways (even on one way streets) and I always keep an eye on cars that are still in motion, especially those that don't appear to be slowing down. It's good to make the…

Heck, I would say the same for when you are driving, multi-ton pieces of steel in motion are unforgiving. I have never trusted people to, say, not blow a red light/stop sign, to turn, even if they have their blinkers on, to not try to cram in front of me at the last second on a packed exit even if there is no room, etc.. Obviously it is more important for pedestrians as they are unprotected, but people generally being more aware/defensive while driving would be a good thing.

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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It was my poor attempt to make a joke about it - it's actually quite bad tv show imo.

Cobra 11 is actually quite awesome detective series. Considering the budget I believe that everybody contributing does an awesome work. I actually really like the show. As a disclaimer I like bad shows that they do not take themselves too seriously more than I like your average series. I would take Cobra 11 over any american police series any day.

Don't get me wrong, I love their production value for what they have in budget! And I wasn't clear enough - it's bad, in a good way!

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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This is a good reminder to always be a defensive and aware pedestrian. Just because you have the light or the right-of-way doesn't mean you are guaranteed a safe crossing of the street. Whenever I cross an intersection as a pedestrian I always look both ways (even on one way streets) and I always keep an eye on cars that are still in motion, especially those that don't appear to be slowing down. It's good to make the…

My rule: if there are cars around, never cross (legally!) unless you have eye contact. That person making a right turn on a red light? They're likely looking left and will you over if you legally start to cross in front of them.

However, I will note: even if you follow this rule, be prepared to jump out of the way. I have to, and often. I walk 4 miles/day in city streets. The number of times I've had to jump out of the way when I had the right of way... ridiculous. Defensive walking or you won't be walking for long.

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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This is a good reminder to always be a defensive and aware pedestrian. Just because you have the light or the right-of-way doesn't mean you are guaranteed a safe crossing of the street. Whenever I cross an intersection as a pedestrian I always look both ways (even on one way streets) and I always keep an eye on cars that are still in motion, especially those that don't appear to be slowing down. It's good to make the…

I've grown up in Lebanon -- a third world country still recovering from a 15 year civil war(1975-1990). Traffic lights and rules are merely suggestions to people around here. If something is physically possible, like a car being able to fit in an pedestrian-only paved road or two cars being able to fit in a one-way street you can be sure that people will do it. It becomes an innate habit to always check both ways and…

I live in Canada in a small town with a fairly large (per capita) Lebanese population (Tweel, Haddad, Rashed, Jabour).

We have bad drivers here but I am willing to bet we exported the behaviour to Lebanon not the other way around.

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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This is a good reminder to always be a defensive and aware pedestrian. Just because you have the light or the right-of-way doesn't mean you are guaranteed a safe crossing of the street. Whenever I cross an intersection as a pedestrian I always look both ways (even on one way streets) and I always keep an eye on cars that are still in motion, especially those that don't appear to be slowing down. It's good to make the…

My rule: if there are cars around, never cross (legally!) unless you have eye contact. That person making a right turn on a red light? They're likely looking left and will you over if you legally start to cross in front of them. However, I will note: even if you follow this rule, be prepared to jump out of the way. I have to, and often. I walk 4 miles/day in city streets. The number of times I've had to jump out of t…

When my friends and I discuss such things I like to emphasize that even if you as a pedestrian or cyclist have the right of way but you're hit and killed your objection is invalid since you're dead.
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