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Re: Official Hacker News T-Shirt

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Post by zachinglis »

davidw wrote: post #186
zachinglis wrote: post #168

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I think it was valid critique. (Something I am sure you give the companies you fund.) It's not always easy to provide critique without knocking the cause - But I understood that's how jug6ernaut meant it. If I were to buy a tshirt for HN, which I might possibly do - I'd want it to show off a message rather than it looking like it could be for anything. This doesn't feel personal to the brand to me – I could buy this…

> I think it was valid critique. (Something I am sure you give the companies you fund.) It's not always easy to provide critique without knocking the cause I always think about saying it to someone as I talk to them.

I'm about to launch a design critique site that I've been working on for months.

The truth is that it's easier to critique in person than online. If you don't know someone's personality and can't read their nuances it makes it a lot harder.

But thats a very good critique advice.

Re: Official Hacker News T-Shirt

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Post by Mz »

pg wrote: post #154
lionhearted wrote: post #84

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Does that sort of thing bug you on some level Paul? I always had you mentally as pretty stoically philosophically detached from that sort of thing. But I've seen a couple of your comments where you seem genuinely bothered when people are catty or mean to others you care about. Would love to hear your take on how you mentally approach that sort of thing in general.

Complicated question. Dismissive comments about new things bother me partly because there's an asymmetry that seems unfair. It's so risky to create something new, and so easy to dismiss it. At their worst, the people making such comments are like schoolyard bullies picking on someone who tries to do something different. This particular case is very mild-- more confused than dismissive really. It just struck me as fun…

Let me suggest that you make the leader board 160 names long. The typical human brain can follow the complex social interactions of a group size of roughly 150-ish people. It varies some from person to person but you see social breakdown in groups larger than about 150-ish people. I think it would help recreate the sense of community that existed when I originally joined which seems to have deteriorated. It would be a core upon which to add social scaffolding.

Re: Official Hacker News T-Shirt

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Post by [deleted] »

pg wrote: post #154
lionhearted wrote: post #84

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Does that sort of thing bug you on some level Paul? I always had you mentally as pretty stoically philosophically detached from that sort of thing. But I've seen a couple of your comments where you seem genuinely bothered when people are catty or mean to others you care about. Would love to hear your take on how you mentally approach that sort of thing in general.

Complicated question. Dismissive comments about new things bother me partly because there's an asymmetry that seems unfair. It's so risky to create something new, and so easy to dismiss it. At their worst, the people making such comments are like schoolyard bullies picking on someone who tries to do something different. This particular case is very mild-- more confused than dismissive really. It just struck me as fun…

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Re: Official Hacker News T-Shirt

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Post by hawkharris »

cperciva wrote: post #114
pg wrote: post #60

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I kind of wish this were the top comment. It would be humorously appropriate if the top comment on the thread about the official HN t-shirt were the traditional nitpicking/point-missing type that is so commonly the top comment when people launch new technology here.

I mean no offense, and I realize that this is your site; but I really think jug6ernaut's comment added far more value than your response. I don't think jug6ernaut missed the point whatsoever, and I wouldn't characterize him as nit-picking either: The question of who is expected to understand the t-shirt and what its point is (as compared to an unbranded t-shirt) are perfectly reasonable. Personally I see nothing wron…

I agree with you and jug6ernaut. I love the concept of the shirt, and, at the same time, I think the design could be improved. There's nothing wrong with making polite, constructive suggestions, as you both did.

Re: Official Hacker News T-Shirt

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Post by adventureloop »

adnam wrote: post #32

If I saw someone wearing this t-shirt, I wouldn't know that it was HN-related. But wearing the t-shirt below, I have occasionally bumped into other people "in the know": http://sdf.org/store/shop.cgi?3;sdf10 Plus the design is way cooler.

I dont really get why people want the shirt to be recognisable. To me it seems that only super brands will get a huge recognition, other brands will be left in an equally puzzling world.

Instead I prefer tees that trigger intrigue and sometimes awesome conversation. I have the 20th anniversary SDF tee, in four years of wearing it I have added a score of users to the service. Even once someone saw the DEC terminal and struck(?) up a really cool conversation about the hardware he worked on.

As an aside, my favourite conversation starter is the Double Fine Costume Quest Blueprint tee.

Re: Official Hacker News T-Shirt

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Post by 6thSigma »

pg wrote: post #154
lionhearted wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does that sort of thing bug you on some level Paul? I always had you mentally as pretty stoically philosophically detached from that sort of thing. But I've seen a couple of your comments where you seem genuinely bothered when people are catty or mean to others you care about. Would love to hear your take on how you mentally approach that sort of thing in general.

Complicated question. Dismissive comments about new things bother me partly because there's an asymmetry that seems unfair. It's so risky to create something new, and so easy to dismiss it. At their worst, the people making such comments are like schoolyard bullies picking on someone who tries to do something different. This particular case is very mild-- more confused than dismissive really. It just struck me as fun…

I am a huge proponent for constructive criticism. It is genuinely helpful when I receive it so I attempt to give it as much as possible in 'Show HN' and similar posts.

Most of the time my comments get a couple up votes and left in the middle of the thread. Sometimes the founder responds and we have a little conversation that is hopefully helpful to both of us.

The one time I've ever posted a comment that could come off as mean spirited (I pointed out a pretty glaring design flaw), it became the most up voted post I've had on HN. I felt bad because the founder responded with his reasoning and it seemed perfectly valid.

I wonder if it would be plausible to self down vote a post (that is weighted heavier than just a single down vote)? I know I didn't want that post to be the first thing someone looked at when they clicked on the comments; that was not my intention at all.

Just something to think about.

Re: Official Hacker News T-Shirt

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Post by Mahn »

antirez wrote: post #180
Mahn wrote: post #162

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Make sure the people want it; I'm for example native from Spain, and there's nothing that comes close to HN in Spanish, but I know an attempt to make something like that would fail miserably because the people simply don't want it (that's probably also why it doesn't exist)

In Italy it is much needed, and apparently there is demand, not because we need to discuss the same news in Italian language. Every semi-decent programmer can read-write some basic English. The point is to work in a "show HN" alike way to create the community that can be used to found new startups. Basically it's an economic/startup-dynamics need, not an actual news need. Well honesty there is also a small news need,…

Makes sense, I wasn't thinking of a community with a focus on show/ask HN kind of posts. Make it happen then ;)

Re: Official Hacker News T-Shirt

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Post by crasshopper »

jwb119 wrote: post #45
wiwillia wrote: post #41

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Hi lance, we just added a grey option on checkout!

Any way for people who have already ordered to change colors?

Yes. Look for your username in the top right corner of the T-shirt. It should be to the left of the word "logout" if you're logged in—or if you're not logged in, you'll see in the top right the option to do so. Clicking on your username brings up a profile with forms you can fill in. Second option from the bottom is called "topcolors". You'll need to look up the Hex code for the colour you want (for example http://www.colorhexa.com/ee33aa).

::starts swiping fingers on a printed page to zoom in the text:: Hey, what the heck is wrong with this thing?

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