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That Daily Shower Can Be a Killer

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Yoga, perhaps, but it's on par with other low impact physical activity and stretching. The other two are just pseudoscience.

do you have any case studies / articles to back this up? i had fairly bad scoliosis when i was younger which was corrected by chiropractic, and i got back every few months for a bit of preventative maintenance. i'd honestly like to see if it's justified or if i'm just waisting my 20 dollars...

You could skip a month and see what happens.

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A handy technique for evaluating situations is this: how many mistakes am I away from death/injury? If I drive without a seatbelt, I've put myself 1 accident away in many cases. My Scouts are young, and love to climb things. I tell them, I know you're strong and skilled. But a loose rock or slippery foothold puts you at risk anyway. So wear the harness - now it takes two mistakes to kill you (e.g. loose rock + badly…

Sometimes you hear things that instantly change your views on the world. I have to say that this above post, in about 10 seconds of reading it, has completely changed my views on assessing risk. The idea of quantifying risk by counting the number of mistakes you are away from catastrophic failure is an excellent way to visualize risk. It's a simple way to calculate risk, and an even easier way to teach my kids. Thank…

Are you an engineer? Redundancy is basic stuff for websites.

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A handy technique for evaluating situations is this: how many mistakes am I away from death/injury? If I drive without a seatbelt, I've put myself 1 accident away in many cases. My Scouts are young, and love to climb things. I tell them, I know you're strong and skilled. But a loose rock or slippery foothold puts you at risk anyway. So wear the harness - now it takes two mistakes to kill you (e.g. loose rock + badly…

Reminds me of skydiving statistics. Something like 1 in 1000 chutes fail, so you pack two. The chance of both chutes failing is 1/1,000,000. Consider the fact that most skydiving accidents are due to human error and you can expect an accident roughly once every 100,000 jumps or more, which it turns out is pretty accurate.

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The CDC has keeps statistics on how people in the USA die http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lcod.htm Looking at the 2011 prelims "Accidents (unintentional injuries)" comes in at #5 with 122,777 deaths and Intentional self-harm (suicide) is at #10 with 38,285. Assault (homicide) is no longer in the top 15. Also, Assault (homicide) by discharge of firearms is 11,101 with all other Assault (homicide) totaling 4,852. To gi…

It’s also important to remember that the total rate of death is constant at 1 death/person. Some death types going down will automatically result in others going up, so an increase or decrease in one type might not necessarily mean that the risk has changed. I guess the goal is to reduce the deaths we can do something about.

Or weight the stats by age or health death. Old people dying of cancer is better than young people dying in car crashes.

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I some similar problems along with significant pain, also caused by falls (and a fairly serious injury that compounded things). I had pain for years, until I stumbled onto a combination of things that completely resolve the issues as long as I stick to them. I'm telling you in case they help. If nothing else it shouldn't hurt anything. In order of importance: 1. Develop & maintain significant muscle mass, specificall…

what a load of balls... the average man should be light and active enough to do a few chin ups with ease and run for a while i have deadlifted over 350. it did nothing for my chronic neck pain and in fact only made it worse by over developing my traps. neckbeard lifting gurus are so full of shit

Do you even lift?

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This is a bit of an aside, but I have to say this: even as a young person, take falls very seriously . I was 22 or so when I slipped in the shower. I was falling to the side and was going to hit my head, so I decided to twist so that I'd fall flat on my back, figuring I'd be fine. Well, I was, until a few hours later, when I started having chest pain and my left arm went numb and started getting shooting pains. Think…

I some similar problems along with significant pain, also caused by falls (and a fairly serious injury that compounded things). I had pain for years, until I stumbled onto a combination of things that completely resolve the issues as long as I stick to them. I'm telling you in case they help. If nothing else it shouldn't hurt anything. In order of importance: 1. Develop & maintain significant muscle mass, specificall…

> Active Release Therapy - this broke up scar tissue that I had, may not be applicable to you

If this is comparable to the Graston technique, I think it works well, but it is far from comfortable. I had this after surgery for my Achilles rupture and it felt someone was carving my achilles out with a dull butter knife.

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The takeaway for programmers: every time you write a statement, the odds that you're introducing a bug are quite small, but you do this a lot, so the odds guarantee you will introduce a bug. The guys at NASA who came to TX/RX in Houston used to treat soldering defects as a statistical certainty. You empirically determine your solder failure rate, count the solder joins in the project, then look for your predicted num…

"They" in this instance was one Joseph Stalin.

Stalin worked at TX/RX?

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One of the reasons falls are so fatal for old people is because elderly people in our society rarely stay active. Look at cultures like the Chinese, where you so elderly women up in the morning doing Taichi, or working out on those weird outdoor gym sets in the rest of the day. Maintaining strength and flexibility during old age helps mitigate damage from falls a lot. Physical deterioration is often a self-fulfilling…

Just to point out that according to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expec... the life expectancy at birth for China in 2011 was 73.47 years (CIA World Factbook (2011 estimates)) compared with 78.37 for the U.S and 80.05 for the UK. So one reason that all those old Chinese people may appear so mobile is that they aren't quite as old as you might expect.

There are a lot of killers between birth and elderly. Look at life expectancy at 65.

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In the climbing example as presented, you should be at least three mistakes away from injury. The belayer should check the climber's harness and knots before allowing the climber to climb. Naturally the climber should check that the belayer's harness is fastened securely and that the belay device is rigged properly before climbing too. Realistically, there are still several single points of failure in the system: 1)…

I'm pretty sure it's climber error and mis-rigging by at least 10x. Gear failures of all kinds are extremely rare. Edit: objective hazard is significant, too: rockfall, afternoon thunderstorms, etc.

Lynn Hill: amazing profession climber. Mis-tied her knot (figure 8 with a follow - she forgot to finish the follow so it was useless) and fell 60 feet into trees to live and keep on climbing. Her advice at a talk a few years ago was "always tie a stopper knot". A stopper knot is an extra "useless" knot that takes seconds to tie and will secure your figure 8 if you threaded it wrong.

While climbing at the Gunks in NY about 8 years ago on a spring day, we heard this massive thunder a few hundred yards away. A small volkswagon sized boulder had broken free from the wall and fell smashing trees below. My friends were about 3 routes away from it when it fell.

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The NYT headline is clearly link bait. If it had simply said "Some thoughts on everyday risks we underestimate" if would go nowhere. That said there is a clear benefit and need to take a shower for many people as opposed to sleeping under a tree or crossing the street in the middle for which there is a work around.

A good headline is pretty much 'link bait' by definition. If a feature writer mistakenly wrote a terrible headline like yours, I would expect the newspaper editor to fix it before going to press.

Some people have a more civilized education.
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