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Apple Pulls 500px’s Mobile Apps From The App Store

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Re: Apple Pulls 500px’s Mobile Apps From The App Store

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Post by svmegatron »

gbog wrote: post #148
ry0ohki wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Developers go where the users go (and pay). Until the Windows and Android stores start bringing devs the same type of money, it's still always worth it to "take the risk" of Apple's store. The only way I see this changing is if users themselves cared about an app being pulled, and this app doesn't seem big enough for people to care (maybe if Instagram was taken down).

> Developers go where the users go You are aware that, except in a tiny fraction of the world, users are going massively android, right?

My understanding of the current state of affairs is that 'users who pay for apps' are still disproportionately represented on iOS. That is, there may be more users on Android, there are more potential customers on iOS.

I could be wrong, though - maybe that balance has started to shift?

Re: Apple Pulls 500px’s Mobile Apps From The App Store

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Post by gte910h »

tghw wrote: post #152
gte910h wrote: post #57

The app was rated 4+, yet would show pictures of naked people http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:itunes.... I think trying to paint Apple as bad in this case is pretty crappy, as it's very clear what the different ratings mean and 500px didn't follow the VERY CLEAR list of what each thing means. http://www.internetsafetyproject.org/wiki/apple%E2%80%99s-ap... True nudity only belongs in 17+ in their…

Our society has this totally backwards. First, to find nudity, you have to go out of your way on 500px. Is it there? Sure. But is a 4 year-old going to run across it without concerted effort? No. And if they do find it, will it really have a negative impact on their development? Highly unlikely. Meanwhile, you can buy an app that will let you watch UFC fights[1]. It is rated 9+. In case you're wondering whether UFC w…

I agree about the values of many Americans. I am not one of the people who who thinks boobs are particularly harmful.

That said, MANY PEOPLE who have dollars apple wants have those values. So they make a system so their devices get turned into something no more "dangerous" than a Wii/DS, and children get iPads and iPodTouches without parents worrying about corrupting their kids with nudity (again, their values, not mine)

Re: Apple Pulls 500px’s Mobile Apps From The App Store

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Post by gte910h »

tsycho wrote: post #118
gte910h wrote: post #57

The app was rated 4+, yet would show pictures of naked people http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:itunes.... I think trying to paint Apple as bad in this case is pretty crappy, as it's very clear what the different ratings mean and 500px didn't follow the VERY CLEAR list of what each thing means. http://www.internetsafetyproject.org/wiki/apple%E2%80%99s-ap... True nudity only belongs in 17+ in their…

By that logic, Safari should be 17+ only and should not be installed by default unless the user claims/proves that they are 17+. It's much easier to access nudity/porn via Safari. 500px's app required much more work, and contained "artistic nudity" not porn.

Restrictions are off by default.

It's up to the person with money to enable them before giving the device to the person, and periodically confirming they're still there.

Re: Apple Pulls 500px’s Mobile Apps From The App Store

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Post by greendestiny »

gte910h wrote: post #188
greendestiny wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, but what you're really saying is its an app rated 4+ that has a mature images option. Yes its a little awkward that the settings to turn it on are only available via a website - but so what?

Parents who buy iPodTouches for their children instead of WiiU's want the parental controls to work. When their 6 year old shows their church friends boobies on their iPodTouch, they get mad and instead buy nintendo.

I agree. My point is that from Apple's perspective they have no interest in an apps internal age restrictions system. If it says 4+ it has to be 4+ for the life of the app.

Re: Apple Pulls 500px’s Mobile Apps From The App Store

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Post by gte910h »

roc wrote: post #27

A quick look shows any number 500px browsing apps still on the store. But they're all rated 12+ or 17+. Which makes me wonder if 500px didn't mark their app accordingly? Or perhaps they used to, but then switched it to a lower rating thinking their 'safe search' toggle was sufficient?

500px was set to 4+. See the above link from me showing the google cached result.

I think 12+ would have probably let them be okay, but I could see apple requiring 17+

Re: Apple Pulls 500px’s Mobile Apps From The App Store

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Post by gte910h »

luney wrote: post #5

Well I was going to write: Time to pull safari But then I checked tech crunch's comments and it seems that I would be very unoriginal. Same goes for any of the other apps mentioned... So to trump them all: Time to disable the internet!

The same page that allows parents to disable the install/use of apps with too high a rating also allows them to disable Safari.

Re: Apple Pulls 500px’s Mobile Apps From The App Store

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Post by gte910h »

D3nver wrote: post #22

I hope the App Store reviewers look over the Safari app. You can do the same thing, but there's no default safe search!! Scandalous!

Safari is disabled on the same screen install of apps that allow nudity is disabled on (General -> Restrictions).

500px rated their app 4+, when their app should have been 12+ or 17+ by appstore rules.

Re: Apple Pulls 500px’s Mobile Apps From The App Store

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Post by gurkendoktor »

bobsy wrote: post #108

I wonder what a young Steve Jobs would have thought of his App store. The guy who went to India looking for spiritual enlightenment. Forcing a certain level of quality is fine. Protecting users from scamware is also fine. Apple goes far beyond this. They nanny the user and force upon them what Apple perceive is right and wrong. I got my first iMac 5 years ago and I thought Apple were awesome and innovative. Now I jus…

This is not about money, unlike the Microsoft/Dropbox IAP quarrel. iOS has been a PG-rated nanny 5 years ago when you bought your iMac.

If typical corporate types were making decisions, they would probably see a lost opportunity and reverse Apple's stance on porn - having millions of credit cards on file would be a perfect base to start selling adult content.

> The guy who went to India looking for spiritual enlightenment.

Buddhism can be incredibly prude, though I am not familiar with the kind(s) of Buddhism that one would find in India.

Re: Apple Pulls 500px’s Mobile Apps From The App Store

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Post by gte910h »

cheald wrote: post #153
jmreid wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You restrict based on age ratings. That's the whole point of his argument. You set the rating restriction, block the communication apps, Safari, and the kid cannot go download another browser and surf. If Apple goes lax on these ratings, then those parental controls stop working.

I just set my age restrictions to "4+", and was still able to open Chrome, Twitter, Flipboard, etc. What I want is to be able to lock down certain apps so I can hand my device to my 4-year-old and know that he's not going to get into anything except the few games I have for him. Is that not possible?

Okay, I looked into it:

Chrome disappears and reappears when I toggle down to 12+

Twitter is (mis)labeled at 4+

I don't have flipboard on my iPhone.

It did take a second for them to disappear. I'm pretty sure a turning off and on will make them disappear. They reappear instantly.

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