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Oh, I see, jokes from 30 years ago!
Alternatively: Knock, knock who's there It's the 90s, wanting their jokes back
Why do they want the jokes back?
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#192Still pretty fun that here banks are still using Java 8, where i work they use java 17 and you can still find work requirements asking for java 7 (mostly in goverment entities)
That's one benefit of using Java actually. You can always find Java developers.
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Golang is faster and use way less memory than Java, never wonder why you never see Kubernetes controller / sidecar is Java? As for Scala it's pretty much a dead language, no one work with it and it's impossible to find dev for it. 10 years ago I was moving Scala code back to regular Java.
Every job I've has has used different languages so I don't really understand the need to find a dev for a specific language. I went from network firmware in C to banking application servers in Scala and it took like 2 weeks to ramp up. Not a big deal. Now I write lower level networking stuff again in Go, which seems like its just worse than e.g. C-with-templates (and occasional classes) style C++ so I don't really un…
>I think it used to be common to just look for smart people and assume they can run with whatever stack. Wasn't that the point of abstract algorithm questions etc. (basically an IQ test)?
Lots of companies where software isn't the focus see it as a cost center, so they'd prefer to hire lower-IQ specialists instead of higher-IQ generalists, because the latter are more expensive/have more options.
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>> Oracle are doing versions at approximately twice the cadence. This has nothing to do with Oracle. All good that you hear from Java in the last few years, is the great community and good old people from Sun working at Oracle.
Someone doesn't know their Java history. Oracle bought Java 16 years ago in 2010. At that time Sun had been working on Java 7 for over 4 years with no release date in sight. Oracle trimmed the fat and released Java 7 in less than a year. And since then has kept a regular release cadence. Sun would probably still be working on Java 7.
it wasn't about Oracle trimming the fat. Java 8 took 3 years to release and then Java 9 another 3 years.
They had to commit to half a year release cycles and LTRs every 2 years. Since then the releases became a lot more predictable. Whatever is not ready is not released (or is there as a preview feature).
This more agile approach is a lot better in my experience and we see that the changes made are more relevant and what people actually want.
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These days, Java is mostly used in greenfield software that has to be very reliable, very performant, and last for many years. So it's often the first choice for banking, telecom, finance, government, defence, manufacturing control, logistics and shipping, media streaming, retail, hospitality, healthcare etc.. It's usually not a first pick for more exciting software, such as Python type checkers, JS bundlers, or TUI…
This is quite the take - i doubt most startups building in these spaces are using Java.
First, they do. Second, most software is not only not produced by software startups, it's not even produced by software companies. Do you know how much software a bank, or a credit card company, or a telecom provider, or a car manufacturer (like BMW), or a shipping company (like FedEx), or a defence company (like Boeing), or a large retailer (like Walmart) write in house?
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#196Serious question: when should one use Java for greenfield projects in 2026?
These days, Java is mostly used in greenfield software that has to be very reliable, very performant, and last for many years. So it's often the first choice for banking, telecom, finance, government, defence, manufacturing control, logistics and shipping, media streaming, retail, hospitality, healthcare etc.. It's usually not a first pick for more exciting software, such as Python type checkers, JS bundlers, or TUI…
Any mainstream language can be reliable. Java is a good choice for greenfield projects when it fits the organisation’s existing stack, expertise, or the broader industry ecosystem. Just like any other language.
Banks, telcos, etc. aren’t monoliths either. They use plenty of different languages depending on the team, system, and requirements. Java isn’t inherently the choice for greenfield software just because reliability matters.
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This is quite the take - i doubt most startups building in these spaces are using Java.
i can't speak to the others but banking and healthcare is virtually all java top to bottom. The big healthcare EMR/EHR systems are Java and every bank i've ever worked with (i use to do a lot of integrations with the big banks) was all Java. I have friends in those areas and whenever they start up a new project it's still always Java since that's where their skills are and what's on the "approved tech." list.
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#199Serious question: when should one use Java for greenfield projects in 2026?
roughly 100% of the time
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#200.
Why do I need Kotlin, or Python, or C when Assembly is enough?