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Re: US sanctions Italian hosting provider Autistici Inventati

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Post by TheGamerUncle »

jameshilliard wrote: post #184
andretti1977 wrote: post #162

US sanctioned ICC, Francesca Albanese and a lot of other people who simply tell the truth. The United States may still have power, but they no longer have any credibility and no longer deserve any respect, neither they nor their zionist partners

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>Francesca Albanese does from the looks of it appear to be fairly antisemitic as well, they have made many statements indicating they believe many common antisemitic conspiracy theories at a minimum in addition to statements that appears to be justifying terrorism.

lmao no she does not she reported a well substantiated set of claims and provided plenty of evidence. Sadly some Jewish individuals and entities, mainly Zionists tarnish the rest of us jews. But no, telling the truth about bloodthirsty Zionists is not antisemitism. It stopped being "muh cunspirucy thiory" when it became clear how much they loved and worked with Epstein.

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Post by resoluteteeth »

jameshilliard wrote: post #184
andretti1977 wrote: post #162

US sanctioned ICC, Francesca Albanese and a lot of other people who simply tell the truth. The United States may still have power, but they no longer have any credibility and no longer deserve any respect, neither they nor their zionist partners

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The ADL has a whole page[1] listing examples of her supposed antisemitism but it basically seems to just be examples of her criticising Israel. I guess the ADL considers that to be the same thing but it is pretty unpersuasive unless you think every criticism of Israel is automatically antisemitism.

1: https://www.adl.org/resources/article/francesca-albanese-her...

Re: US sanctions Italian hosting provider Autistici Inventati

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Post by resoluteteeth »

frollogaston wrote: post #182
andretti1977 wrote: post #162

US sanctioned ICC, Francesca Albanese and a lot of other people who simply tell the truth. The United States may still have power, but they no longer have any credibility and no longer deserve any respect, neither they nor their zionist partners

Really best for the US to get rid of the zionism ties. I'm fine with US imperialism, which actually benefits us, not this bs where we spend all our money and diplomatic strength on some other country.

Supporting allies like this by supplying weapons is is one of the main ways the us projects military strength abroad and the situation with Israel shows how that can actually be counterproductive by escalating hostilities.

If you don't want the us to waste money on that you probably actually shouldn't want the us to engage in "imperialism" at all.

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Post by cindyllm »

andretti1977 wrote: post #162

US sanctioned ICC, Francesca Albanese and a lot of other people who simply tell the truth. The United States may still have power, but they no longer have any credibility and no longer deserve any respect, neither they nor their zionist partners

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Re: US sanctions Italian hosting provider Autistici Inventati

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Post by [deleted] »

Saline9515 wrote: post #177
john_strinlai wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i know you have strong feelings about this, because you have over 10 comments on this submission, but i'm talking about the general rhetoric of the message (as i quoted), not specific to a/i or any left/right politics. the general language used in this announcement is undoubtedly anti-encryption and anti-privacy. it just so happens that this time the rhetorical device is terrorism instead of protecting children.

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Re: US sanctions Italian hosting provider Autistici Inventati

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Post by frollogaston »

resoluteteeth wrote: post #193
frollogaston wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really best for the US to get rid of the zionism ties. I'm fine with US imperialism, which actually benefits us, not this bs where we spend all our money and diplomatic strength on some other country.

Supporting allies like this by supplying weapons is is one of the main ways the us projects military strength abroad and the situation with Israel shows how that can actually be counterproductive by escalating hostilities. If you don't want the us to waste money on that you probably actually shouldn't want the us to engage in "imperialism" at all.

The problem with Israel is we do anything they want without getting anything comparable in return. And they control both our parties. It's not like this in Ukraine or the Asian Pacific.

Re: US sanctions Italian hosting provider Autistici Inventati

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Post by bigyabai »

Saline9515 wrote: post #123
compass_copium wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A/I collective is not being accused of that, but of hosting information and providing communications services.

If I vet Al Qaida members on my platform, provide them services, continue to do it after several bombings, and keep their unencrypted mails and host their websites, I'm quite sure that I can be considered as an accomplice.

How sure? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230

Re: US sanctions Italian hosting provider Autistici Inventati

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Post by NDlurker »

JuniperMesos wrote: post #188
NDlurker wrote: post #89

> Rose City Antifa also used A/I Collective tools and services to disseminate doxing lists and release illegally obtained personal information of Federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement, along with calls for targeted attacks on ICE agents in the streets and “in their homes.” That's what DHS does. They dish it out but can't handle it when it's done to them. Cowards.

Dishing it out but not accepting it being done to them is exactly what it means to be a monopoly on legitimate violence. When two parties are dishing it out separately to each other, and one of them calls themselves the government, this is called a civil war or at least a terrorist insurgency.

ICE has been harassing, imprisoning, and murdering people for no legitimate reason.

Re: US sanctions Italian hosting provider Autistici Inventati

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Post by antonvs »

fodkodrasz wrote: post #97
antonvs wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Capitalism has been judged on its own merits, and been found to be a ridiculously simplistic, unworkable system that tends toward oligarchy, massive inequality, and authoritarianism. The state needs to get involved to protect the unworkable system.

Maybe you are right, at least partially, I can identify many of its flaws myself. However for example my homeland has tried communism/socialism, and went through brief periods of anarchy, and the same can be told about all. My family has lost a lot to all of these experiments (including the current capitalist one), but stability and modest prosperity are the best, and anarchism is as far from that as it gets, especia…

> the same can be told about all.

Because the idea that there's one simple ideologically-based system that's going to solve all problems is simplistic.

Markets are useful, but that doesn't mean that societies should be organized around entirely around markets and private ownership of almost everything as the primary governing principle.

The US has really taken this to an extreme, to the point that it has legally ruled that "money is speech", which essentially guarantees an oligarchy.

Treating capitalism and communism/socialism as two sides of a binary choice is a propaganda trick, basically.

Re: US sanctions Italian hosting provider Autistici Inventati

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Post by like_any_other »

wat10000 wrote: post #166
like_any_other wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a "gotcha", it's correcting the GPs deceptive contrast of labor groups versus white supremacists, when they were one and the same.

They contrasted ecoterroists versus white supremacists now, and labor vs fascists in the past.

If you insist on nitpicking, I'll spell it out for you:

> look at how the FBI treated [white supremacist] labor groups versus fascists ones in the 20s [..] no need to worry about the decades after, they killed enough [white supremacist?] leaders to stop [white supremacist??] leftwing voices in the US

So the fact that the labor groups the FBI targeted were white supremacist by today's standards makes those sentences complete nonsense.

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