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Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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This is my setup (except I have an Air because the Neo didn't exist yet). And it's great. Tailscale makes it trivial.

So, do you use VNC (or ssh) to access the Mac Studio at home? Or do you only access other stuff that's living in your home network?

not OP but tailscale ssh does the trick for me.

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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John Dvorak said many, many decades ago (80s/90s) that the computer you want will always cost $3000. That statement has been more/less true for some time periods than others, but with some wiggle room I’ve found it to be accurate enough. Care to guess the approximate price of the MBP I bought earlier this year?

My heavily-upgraded M1 Max came in slightly over that when I got it five years ago. (Still going very, very strong.) This new Studio? Can't find a config under $5k I'd bother with. But for the MBPs that number still mostly tracks for the average Pro user. (I buy large and run it into the ground so long I mistake the ground for the computer's remains.)

I buy large and run it into the ground so long I mistake the ground for the computer's remains.

My still-being-used 2012 MBP (which cost me about $3K) says, “hi”.

And, as you point out, the new computers I want blow Dvorak’s hypothesis out of the water. Never would I have guessed 30 years ago that Dvorak would be wrong the other direction on price.

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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Due to pricing insanity (not that Apple prices weren’t insane before the ram/ssd shortages) I’m not in the market but I do wonder if my next computer should be a Mac Studio instead of a MBP that lives its life docked. Might be better to just run a Studio and Neo for the very few times I actually need remote capabilities.

My goto. Even ignoring speed, it's nice to have a remote machine that keeps doing whatever it's doing while your laptop is closed. And the ARM Macs idle at such low power that it's not wasteful like my MacPro4,1 was haha. My UPS's ammeter doesn't even display the Mac mini's draw.

They gave me a nice MBP for my new job. I tried doing heavy work on it locally, it was fine for that, and yet it still ended up being a light terminal into an EC2 instance, partially because their stuff is on AWS and latency is way lower within that. My personal mini is running too.

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is my setup (except I have an Air because the Neo didn't exist yet). And it's great. Tailscale makes it trivial.

So, do you use VNC (or ssh) to access the Mac Studio at home? Or do you only access other stuff that's living in your home network?

ssh in terminal and/or through VS Code. When needed, I also use Apple's Screen Sharing app.

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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Sorry for being lazy, but is there a rough breakdown like "You get sonnet level for M5 and Opus for M5 pro, etc.", or is it still speculative. Or put simpler, do you get Opus level for the 256GB M5 Max?

Opus is probably ~2T parameter model, so that would probably not run on these. More like Sonnet.

The 512GB could run GLM 5.3 which is Opus level

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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The thing that intrigues me the most is this: "Storage performance is up to twice as fast, with a next-generation SSD architecture built on PCIe Gen 6..." This is the first personal computer I've noticed that has PCIe Gen 6 storage. I've only seen enterprise PCIe Gen 6 SSDs up until now. Gen 5 SSDs in consumer devices already have high temperatures and thermal throttling, so I'm worried about how Apple's implementati…

Im curious, how often is SSD / storage speed performance really useful? I feel like for many people it's akin to gigabyte wifi in that its nice to have, but not really particularly necessary

Boot time, loading game time, mostly.

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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post #87

Due to pricing insanity (not that Apple prices weren’t insane before the ram/ssd shortages) I’m not in the market but I do wonder if my next computer should be a Mac Studio instead of a MBP that lives its life docked. Might be better to just run a Studio and Neo for the very few times I actually need remote capabilities.

Having replaced my MacBook with a Mac Mini, I would reconsider. The MacBook is just such a _complete_ package. Great speakers, great keyboard, fantastic screen, the fingerprint sensor thingy.. Takes a lot of gear to match that

I thought the question was low-end MacBook + mini vs high-end MacBook. The low-end one has all those nice things. I wouldn't sacrifice that. If it has to be MacBook + super old used mini as home server, so be it.

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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post #182

The thing that intrigues me the most is this: "Storage performance is up to twice as fast, with a next-generation SSD architecture built on PCIe Gen 6..." This is the first personal computer I've noticed that has PCIe Gen 6 storage. I've only seen enterprise PCIe Gen 6 SSDs up until now. Gen 5 SSDs in consumer devices already have high temperatures and thermal throttling, so I'm worried about how Apple's implementati…

Im curious, how often is SSD / storage speed performance really useful? I feel like for many people it's akin to gigabyte wifi in that its nice to have, but not really particularly necessary

It's nice when using large sample libraries so you can stream them off the drive without as much caching in memory. Local LLM workflows probably also benefit from being able to run models too big for RAM off the drive.

Re: New Mac Studio with M5 Max and M5 Ultra

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post #180

Due to pricing insanity (not that Apple prices weren’t insane before the ram/ssd shortages) I’m not in the market but I do wonder if my next computer should be a Mac Studio instead of a MBP that lives its life docked. Might be better to just run a Studio and Neo for the very few times I actually need remote capabilities.

Another option is a 'maxed out' mini e.g M5 Pro/64GB. Mini is super easy to travel with if you know there'll be a 'dock' at the far end e.g office home or whatever.

So I can somewhat speak to this, as I actually did this for a while c. 2021 and 2022.

The issue (apart from my Mac mini still having the old, bigger form factor back then) is that this requires a full shutdown (obviously), and that is more friction than opening a closed laptop lid. It just takes a moment for every app and background service etc. to settle back in after, and depending on how your brain works, you might not like that a whole lot.

It absolutely is a cool feeling to carry a pretty mighty desktop in the backpack, though.

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