Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

More than 10 firms pay up to $100k a month for access to Truth Social posts

bbc.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

191–200 of 338 posts

Re: More than 10 firms pay up to $100k a month for access to Truth Social posts

#191

Post by swed420 »

llm_nerd wrote: post #118
swed420 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The standards for the Democrats are impossible perfection How do you figure? The previous Dem president literally promised, "nothing will fundamentally change" and that's exactly what happened. We have a faux democracy / uniparty of capital interests where one "side" manufactures consent for the other. rightwardRatchet++;

> How do you figure? Biden was speaking to the people who ended up bankrolling Trump when threatened with slightly increased taxes, and who are going to dump billions into the midterms. When you're in a country that wavers around 50/50 every election (even when the choice is between competent government or a spectacularly incompetent shitshow of grifters, pedos and thieves), yes, there are limits to what you can real…

Is that why Dems elevated Trump originally from meme-tier gameshow host to serious contender with their pied piper "strategy"? The best they could do is be mad at wikileaks for making them look bad.

Or why they forced a widely unpopular Dem candidate instead of having an actual primary last time around (not that they've shown they can even run a fair primary)?

edit to add:

> Ranked choice ballots -- real democracy -- would threaten that.

This is not the magical fix you think it is, since other countries with >2 parties suffer from the same systemic rot of revolving door politics, monopolistic corporate media, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolving_door_(politics)

Re: More than 10 firms pay up to $100k a month for access to Truth Social posts

#192

Post by senordevnyc »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #164
c7b wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The decline of the Roman Empire, depending on how you define it, played out over centuries, if not a millennium. It is such a bad analogy for the kind of within-our-lifetimes collapse that is being speculated about here that it undermines the original concern. The decline of Germany as the leading scientific powerhouse in the first half if the 20th century would be a better case study imho.

Sure, but it's also likely that some (but not all) historians will put the peak of the American Empire in the 1960's somewhere, perhaps onat the moon landing. Declines often start out slow and are often indistinguishable from random noise until well after the fact, and there will be rises and falls after the peak.

it's also likely that some (but not all) historians will put the peak of the American Empire in the 1960's somewhere

Based on what metric?

Re: More than 10 firms pay up to $100k a month for access to Truth Social posts

#193

Post by lotsofpulp »

317070 wrote: post #103
program_whiz wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(not a repub) I don't defend it, its outright fraud, but I also accept the reality that it is a more visible, and perhaps exaggerated, form of what has been ongoing forever. Those who seek power seek it to: 1. Enrich themselves and their family 2. Wield it to achieve their means The "pay to play" is rife everywhere. The contractors who get a sweet deal from local / fed government, the competition is stifled. The sena…

> but I also accept the reality that it is a more visible, and perhaps exaggerated, form of what has been ongoing forever Thanks for sharing this. It's a deep insight for me. I did not understand how the same people that were deeply skeptical about the state, ended up being so quiet when the state's corruption became flagrant and blatant. But this line of thinking makes a lot of sense.

It sounds like equivocating nonsense to me. No one expects a society to be completely free of corruption, but there is a difference between at least putting up a veneer of working towards transparency, and unabashed pay to play corruption.

In fact, the corruption is what the voters want, to show that they prioritize their group (white, men, rural, rich, benefactors, whatever helps you identify with the “winner” etc) at the expense of others.

Re: More than 10 firms pay up to $100k a month for access to Truth Social posts

#194

Post by meetingthrower »

program_whiz wrote: post #79
koe123 wrote: post #47

Curious: are there any republicans left on HN? I have no concept of how you can defend this

(not a repub) I don't defend it, its outright fraud, but I also accept the reality that it is a more visible, and perhaps exaggerated, form of what has been ongoing forever. Those who seek power seek it to: 1. Enrich themselves and their family 2. Wield it to achieve their means The "pay to play" is rife everywhere. The contractors who get a sweet deal from local / fed government, the competition is stifled. The sena…

Nice writing man.

Re: More than 10 firms pay up to $100k a month for access to Truth Social posts

#195

Post by llm_nerd »

swed420 wrote: post #191
llm_nerd wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How do you figure? Biden was speaking to the people who ended up bankrolling Trump when threatened with slightly increased taxes, and who are going to dump billions into the midterms. When you're in a country that wavers around 50/50 every election (even when the choice is between competent government or a spectacularly incompetent shitshow of grifters, pedos and thieves), yes, there are limits to what you can real…

Is that why Dems elevated Trump originally from meme-tier gameshow host to serious contender with their pied piper "strategy"? The best they could do is be mad at wikileaks for making them look bad. Or why they forced a widely unpopular Dem candidate instead of having an actual primary last time around (not that they've shown they can even run a fair primary)? edit to add: > Ranked choice ballots -- real democracy --…

100%. Clearly you've nailed it, and you should vote for Trump's third term.

Let's be real here - when people do the "both parties are the same", usually citing some chickenshit bullshit like you just did, they're almost always a terrible person who just loves Trump but won't just admit it.

Just own it, man.

Re: More than 10 firms pay up to $100k a month for access to Truth Social posts

#196

Post by senordevnyc »

ceejayoz wrote: post #153
Aurornis wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If nobody was trusting the country, the economy would collapse. The Greenland drama was dumb, but there is zero reason to think it’s a next 50 years thing. Is the force even still there, or are they gone? Nobody takes the Greenland thing seriously already, and 50 years have not passed.

Why? I don't trust a wood chipper or angle grinder or fireworks on the Fourth of July, so I'm extra careful around them. Doesn't mean I don't use them. > Is the force even still there… Yep.

OK, so apparently the claim that "no one will ever trust the US or their commitments again" means that businesses and governments will still enter into all manner of trades and alliances and business arrangements with the US, but in their heart of hearts, they won't actually trust the US?

Re: More than 10 firms pay up to $100k a month for access to Truth Social posts

#198

Post by swed420 »

llm_nerd wrote: post #195
swed420 wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that why Dems elevated Trump originally from meme-tier gameshow host to serious contender with their pied piper "strategy"? The best they could do is be mad at wikileaks for making them look bad. Or why they forced a widely unpopular Dem candidate instead of having an actual primary last time around (not that they've shown they can even run a fair primary)? edit to add: > Ranked choice ballots -- real democracy --…

100%. Clearly you've nailed it, and you should vote for Trump's third term. Let's be real here - when people do the "both parties are the same", usually citing some chickenshit bullshit like you just did, they're almost always a terrible person who just loves Trump but won't just admit it. Just own it, man.

Way to address actual criticisms.

Also, it's a strawman of your creation to say both parties are the same. They're two different facades for the same underlying monetary interests. Sorry you're so easily fooled by that, but it shows that it works.

Re: More than 10 firms pay up to $100k a month for access to Truth Social posts

#200

Post by ceejayoz »

senordevnyc wrote: post #196
ceejayoz wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? I don't trust a wood chipper or angle grinder or fireworks on the Fourth of July, so I'm extra careful around them. Doesn't mean I don't use them. > Is the force even still there… Yep.

OK, so apparently the claim that "no one will ever trust the US or their commitments again" means that businesses and governments will still enter into all manner of trades and alliances and business arrangements with the US, but in their heart of hearts, they won't actually trust the US?

Think of it this way:

You loan a friend $5k. They promise to pay it back. They don't.

You may still hang out! But you may never loan them money again unless they give meaningful evidence they've changed.

The US probably has one concrete chance left to prosecute, convict, and jail these folks to rebuild trust. My vibe from the Democrats is that they'll whiff that opportunity.

Post reply on HN