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Big Food vs. the People

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Re: Big Food vs. the People

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Post by mcmcmc »

Pay08 wrote: post #190
mcmcmc wrote: post #189

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Literally no: https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule28 The laws of war (outside jus ad bello) aren’t that complicated. Don’t shoot the medic is one every combatant benefits from.

1. Medics aren't hospitals. Nor are they any other building for that matter. 2. There's literally an exception right there in the singular sentence you linked to.

1. Distinction without a difference. Medical facilities and personnel marked with the Red Cross are afforded the same protections.

2. Fair enough. It’s still morally wrong to do so if it’s not solely being used as a military facility.

Re: Big Food vs. the People

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Post by AlotOfReading »

mcmcmc wrote: post #184
AlotOfReading wrote: post #175

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I'm not sure how you can read the article and think it isn't arguing MSF/DWB is political. A few quotes: Hamas operatives in Gaza hospitals, failure to screen out terrorists, and politicized leadership erode the Nobel Prize-winning aid group’s claim to neutrality While continuing to invoke the language of medical neutrality, its rhetoric has become overtly politicized, most notably in its discourse on Israel. From me…

You can’t bomb hospitals. Period. DWB aren’t hospital admins or responsible for deciding who deserves treatment and who deserves to die. Netanyahu is a war criminal who will go down in history as a monster and a tyrant.

I don't know why you're telling me this. It's not like I agree with the article. I'm offering it as an example of people who think DWB is political.

Re: Big Food vs. the People

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Post by AlotOfReading »

Pay08 wrote: post #186
AlotOfReading wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure how you can read the article and think it isn't arguing MSF/DWB is political. A few quotes: Hamas operatives in Gaza hospitals, failure to screen out terrorists, and politicized leadership erode the Nobel Prize-winning aid group’s claim to neutrality While continuing to invoke the language of medical neutrality, its rhetoric has become overtly politicized, most notably in its discourse on Israel. From me…

Yes, they're saying that some members of MSF aren't neutral, which risks the perception of the whole organisation. That's a mile away from saying the organisation is political.

I get what you're saying, but my opinion is that an argument that encompasses everything from local operations up the highest levels of international leadership is an argument about the entire organization.

Re: Big Food vs. the People

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Post by strictnein »

jt2190 wrote: post #131
strictnein wrote: post #119

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As a wise man once said: > "There is, surprisingly enough, quite a chasm between identifying that some parties are taking advantage of a system and completely shutting that system down."

You repeating vague claims over and over is not clarifying your point at all.

You stated "The alternative would mean taking away the right of private citizens to sue".

I stated that there is a large range of possibilities between the existing system and taking away a right to sue.

You then repeated your earlier statement, in a slightly different form, so I just repeated mine.

You keep going on about "individuals" when I'm clearly talking about trial lawyers looking to get rich, while we get $5 off our next meal at Taco Bell.

Re: Big Food vs. the People

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Post by strictnein »

mmooss wrote: post #127
strictnein wrote: post #118

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Courts aren't free. Juries involve real humans.

Those costs are relatively minimal, courts do charge fees (though I don't know how well that covers the court's expenses), and few class action suits go to trial - they are settled or dismissed beforehand.

Personally, I had to spend almost a week sitting in a jury pool at the courthouse. I lost about $1k in pay which was rather significant for me at the time. The lawyers did end up settling out of court though, and made $xx millions. So I guess it was all worth it in the end...
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