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Re: ChatGPT Work

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I just clicked "Upgrade" in the macOS Codex Desktop app and it relaunched with a new name, "ChatGPT". My existing install of the macOS ChatGPT app seems to have been renamed "ChatGPT Classic".

just commented ton Tibo's post; they should have made things clearer and told us if the macOS ChatGPT app was going away. So I could either delete it or not be surprised when it rolls into something else :(

Re: ChatGPT Work

#192

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I came to the exact same conclusion recently. I am building something like lightspeed that can run on “pay per second” infra like fly.io sprites because I wanted to have an open claw style agent but not have to deal with paying for another VM.

Came to a similar decision 5 months ago and ended up building “seven” on Fly’s sprites: https://github.com/1to10partners/seven Nowadays, depending on the project’s complexity I either run just 1 sprite, several sprites, or in one case 1 permanent “CTO” VM (with a dedicated GH App identity) that specs work that a fleet of worker sprites pull and implement.

Do you still run your main dev loop through this? Curious

Re: ChatGPT Work

#193

I have a longer version of this, but in summary So my understanding of the differences between chat, code and co-work; but may well be wrong! Chat is the human, talking directly to the LLM - old school. Very basic can create docs etc - but saves in a temp folder. No real access to your local PC. Cowork / work - Human talking to an agent, which can then use tools to do work. Also runs in a container, allowing it acces…

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Re: ChatGPT Work

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There shouldn't be a cognitive difference between chat, work, or codex. It seems strange that both Anthropic and OpenAI would want to split their products in this way. IMHO, there should be just projects. Within each project, there can be conversations, and each conversation can either be pure chats, or tools use (work), or coding (codex). Whether tools use or coding are needed should be decided entirely on the context. No one thinks about the solution first -- we don't think "hey Imma need to code something". It's always "I have a problem, and after discussing with the AI, the best approach is to use tools or write some code about it".

This observed inverse in the GUI: product first, project later could be another evidence of Conway's law [^1]

[^1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_law

Re: ChatGPT Work

#195
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I look forward to John Gruber’s screed on this given his recent rampages against Electron apps, and his preference for OpenAIs native macOS app (relative to Claude).

Technically I think it uses something called OpenAI OWL not Electron https://openai.com/index/building-chatgpt-atlas/ (which they extracted from Atlas, but the new app mentions it in the about window)

it's just Yet Another Chromium, like everything else.

Re: ChatGPT Work

#196
OpenAI just burned through a lot of tokens with everyone asking ChatGPT, "I'm confused, how do I use the new ChatGPT app with work and codex and what's the difference between the browser and mobile versions?"

Re: ChatGPT Work

#197

I just installed this. I am very confused. I no longer have a Codex app on my computer. ChatGPT is now Codex. But what happened to ChatGPT? Where am I supposed to casually chat? Also, when you toggle btween ChatGPT Work and ChatGPT Codex, nothing changes. This is super confusing. Can someone from the OpenAI team clarify the difference btwn the modes? Does chatgpt work have more business-y related plugins turned on by…

I feel like the web is under attack. They want chatgpt in desktop app so they can start moving people away from chatgpt via web. Web being suspectible to automation is driving everything into locked down apps. The very toxic reddit.com a prime example of this -- forbidding mobile web access behind a timed wall.

Yes, the side effect has been me using Reddit via Incognito, which means I don’t see it every time I open iOS Chrome, and also I’m not signed in, so after 14 years I’ve basically stopped using it.

I guess with their IPO “the line must go up”. Very stupid, dark pattern.

Re: ChatGPT Work

#198

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It really is a mess. An hour or so ago, the download for macOS was called ChatGPT.dmg. However the app in there was still called Codex. But it installed ChatGPT. But it seems to be fixed now. Also, subtitling Work with "For getting work done" and Codex with "For developers" is a bit aggressive towards developers ;)

Ha! Feeling very attacked.

Seems like they've changed it again already.

Re: ChatGPT Work

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I look forward to John Gruber’s screed on this given his recent rampages against Electron apps, and his preference for OpenAIs native macOS app (relative to Claude).

It's less a screed and more of a reasoned argument, in this case. The Claude app is ass, as are most electron apps compared to native.

Don’t disagree, but screed funnier. Plus it still fits, as the dictionary definition is “lengthy, often ranted” — which doesn’t preclude reasoned.

Re: ChatGPT Work

#200

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AppKit and SwiftUI and WinUI are all meh for rendering lots of text. Chromium is quite good at it. Plus they have lots of embedded web content these days and managing webviews is a relative pain vs it all being one webview

It's fairly simple sans-serif text with some markdown formatting, eh?

Yea but rendering a book’s worth of that, with text selection and embedded web content, is not trivial with the native UI frameworks like it is with web UI.
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