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CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps
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Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps
#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the donation is framed as a single developer benefitting it should be fine, but at least when I was donating that was framed as donations to the project which suggests something else. I'm fine with this use, rewarding a developer, but neither was this transparent nor was it fair for all others working on the project (and supposedly getting cost claims refused).
Guys in OM core dev team paying for hosting, app accounts, legal questions, etc(AFAIK, they subsidize all that from their own money because donations are not enough). On top of that, they contribute years of man-hours for free to the project. I believe it is completely fair for hard-working dev to use donated money to have some rest. Imo, consumers of all that good are too spoiled to also require strict discipline or…
Hosting etc. expenses are a minor fraction compared to OM's donations inflow. And its enough to hire devs, the first dev was hired more than two years ago, but they have been hiding this fact to look more poor and attract more donations.
Even long-term active contributors have been denied even totals information about donations and got to know about first hire by chance about a year since the fact.
Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps
#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
Guys in OM core dev team paying for hosting, app accounts, legal questions, etc(AFAIK, they subsidize all that from their own money because donations are not enough). On top of that, they contribute years of man-hours for free to the project. I believe it is completely fair for hard-working dev to use donated money to have some rest. Imo, consumers of all that good are too spoiled to also require strict discipline or…
Hosting etc. expenses are a minor fraction compared to OM's donations inflow. And its enough to hire devs, the first dev was hired more than two years ago, but they have been hiding this fact to look more poor and attract more donations. Even long-term active contributors have been denied even totals information about donations and got to know about first hire by chance about a year since the fact.
>Hosting etc. expenses are a minor fraction compared to OM's donations inflow.
How do you know that if they are not disclosing this info?
Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps
#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
To what end? I can think of 10 reasons immediately off the top of my head, but it’s far easier to fill existing open source projects with agent contributors for most of them. Do you really need someone to rhyme out why state actors do what they do?
An example would be very interesting and yes explaining what they’re up to would be interesting as well. Otherwise it sounds like a made up conspiracy theory….
When something is only a few thousand dollars away from us in "the adjacent possible", I hardly think one needs to be a conspiracy theorist to suggest we consider it...?
I don't have the means to research, but certainly there would be ample resources for such an attack in certain spaces??? Manufacturing social signal is hugely valuable
Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps
#195I use CoMaps, it works great. You get notified in the app to download the updated maps you selected every 2 weeks or so. Could be wildly different than that, just what I notice. It's timing estimates are often 5-15 minutes off Apple Maps, which I find accurate, on ~two hour drives, but I imagine it depends on the traffic. To improve OpenStreetMap, which CoMaps uses as the data source, I use StreetComplete[1]–it puts…
Are you aware of any app comparable to StreetComplete for iOS?
A massive effort has been underway for a while to get an iOS build of the app: https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/5421
Open source software often moves comparatively slowly, of course, but I believe they're making decent progress.
Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps
#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you aware of any app comparable to StreetComplete for iOS?
A massive effort has been underway for a while to get an iOS build of the app: https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/5421 Open source software often moves comparatively slowly, of course, but I believe they're making decent progress.
Doh already linked below, sorry
Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps
#197One of the main things that keeps me from using essentially all OSM-based mapping apps as my primary is that search seems incredibly bad. I can't blend city and name, road and category, can't usually filter by features or open time, and results are almost always something like: - a result 500 feet away that sounds nothing like what you searched for - a result 23 miles away that shares one word but nothing else - a re…
Search is a really tough problem in OSM for a few reasons, but I think a lot it stems from bad address parsing. I’ve been working on geocoder which uses a trained model to parse and classify address queries into a tokenized form. In addition to being more accurate than traditional rule-based parsing, this approach also gives the search engine more to work with beyond the tokenized boundaries of each word. The model a…
Is this referring to the difficulty of figuring out what "123 w dhuwdaodks plk" means? I can certainly see that (especially internationally - model-based parsing makes a lot of sense there, assuming enough good training data exists), but like I reliably can't even find precise matches in dedicated fields like "business name" or "city". Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, and no open source app I've found yet seems to offer any way to select or filter on fields that definitely exist across locations that definitely exist (I've checked the data by hand). It feels extremely strange, like they're all trying to copy each other without stepping back and figuring out if any of it makes any sense at all to their stated audience.
Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps
#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
An example would be very interesting and yes explaining what they’re up to would be interesting as well. Otherwise it sounds like a made up conspiracy theory….
When something is only a few thousand dollars away from us in "the adjacent possible", I hardly think one needs to be a conspiracy theorist to suggest we consider it...? I don't have the means to research, but certainly there would be ample resources for such an attack in certain spaces??? Manufacturing social signal is hugely valuable
I feel like governments have so many options for hacking that forking open source and dealing with all that is likely more work than whatever outcome they hope for.
Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps
#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hosting etc. expenses are a minor fraction compared to OM's donations inflow. And its enough to hire devs, the first dev was hired more than two years ago, but they have been hiding this fact to look more poor and attract more donations. Even long-term active contributors have been denied even totals information about donations and got to know about first hire by chance about a year since the fact.
>Hosting etc. expenses are a minor fraction compared to OM's donations inflow. How do you know that if they are not disclosing this info?
Because he can estimate based on typical hosting costs for similar websites, on one hand, and a lower-bound estimate of the number and amount of donations, on the other.
Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps
#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
> you intentionally leaked the map generation code (which was not intended to be published) In short: It was perfectly legal to publish this code (Apache 2.0 repo and DCO signed agreeing its a public contribution) and OM shareholders have always claimed that the map generator code is open and people are free to fork it. However it turned out they were holding back a bunch of commits to prevent people from easily fork…
Also me and other CoMaps contributors had been actually banned several months later after they've started their accusations, so the ban is not directly because of the accusations. At first we've been having discussion and arguing about the matter and related topics in OM chats. But people saw their very shaky arguments and how they refute their own previous words about openness of the maps generator etc. So then they…
Petty bureaucrats misusing their privileges to ban key contributors from FOSS projects is a recurring tale I'm afraid. I've seen this happen with Thunderbird, and later also with LibreOffice (well, The Document Foundation to be exact). It is ridiculous and frustrating, especially since most other contributors and users remain passive and let these things just happen (even when they don't agree), typically because they don't want to put in the effort, or to risk their cordial relations with those in power. I very much sympathize with your predicament.