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The future of Flipper Zero development

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Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

#191

I wonder whether that future includes sending me the device I initially backed on the very first kickstarter. It's been >4 years of back-and-forth with support.

Please send me your support ticket ID to pavel[at]flipper.net

Sent!

Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

#192

Tough spot with community that expects firmware updates while hardware sells only once

Easy fix: Allow donations, merge updates once donation pool is enough to pay for the maintainers' time.

In my experience this doesn't work because people in large groups usually demand maintenance for free and donate explicitly for features they personally want.

You usually end up with insufficient donations to move anything, but now gained a bunch of users who think they own the devs and complain about every change which isn't that one thing they donated for...

Much easier fix: They already open-sourced everything, the official branch is sufficiently stable and feature-rich. People are free to fork and create something new, decoupled from the Flipper team and maybe even financed by donations if they want to.

Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

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How do you know they are furries? The illustration could be set in a world where humans and anthropomorphic animals coexist, like the fictional worlds in movies such as "The Bad Guys" or TV shows such as BoJack Horseman or Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Another possibility is that it is a medical and/or supernatural condition. They all appear to be canines. They could be werewolves, in a world where medicine and/or magic has developed a way to allow the change to just affect the body leaving their mind and personality intact.

Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

#194

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My philosophy in most things. Even if I don’t understand it, who cares? It’s America and that means freedom

That's exactly right. Between us, I don't understand furries at all. It doesn't remotely interest me and I can't really even imagine being interested in it. And that's OK! Someone else being into it doesn't harm me in any way. If it brings someone else joy, I don't have to understand it. I'm just glad my friends have a fun thing they enjoy with their other friends.

My sister went to a furry convention this last weekend. I don't get it, but yeah, I am just kind of like "cool! I hope it was fun!"

Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

#195
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I use it to clone remotes of "dumb" devices and emulate them with ESPHome to make them "smart" fully offline under my control.

Can you outline the process here? What transmitters do you use with esp32?

Everything you can capture with Flipper has off-the-shelf cheap simple components you can find in your DIY electronics/maker store: IR leds, 433Mhz antennas. Seeed xiao is also small enough that you can stuff it and a relay into appliances and simulate button presses.

Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

#196

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Is this something you do often? I could see a few use cases and also for copying garage keys. But I don't think I would use it enough to justify the investment

IMO for garage much easier to just add garage door opener that works from your phone.

And then I need to pull my phone to open the garage door? No thanks

Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

#197

Flipper Zero is one of the handiest little pieces of tech I’ve ever owned. Being able to copy RFID keys is occasionally fantastically useful.

Is this something you do often? I could see a few use cases and also for copying garage keys. But I don't think I would use it enough to justify the investment

If you just want to clone a typical garage door remote, you're way better off buying a generic $5 fob. Almost all the 433MHz garage fobs I've seen are designed to easily clone each other. And if cloning doesn't work, it's probably because you need to access the door controller and hit a few buttons to pair the remote directly. Also trivial, and also often pretty physically insecure. In the smaller apartment buildings I've lived in, the boxes containing these control units have usually just been hidden behind by a couple of screws and a "danger electricity" sticker.

If your current remote has multiple unused buttons on it as they often do, you can already try this out.

Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

#198

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Which is just another way of saying "this is why most developers prefer subscriptions over one-time sales"

What's funny, or maybe sad, is that this used to be a solved problem back in the CD-distribution era of software. You buy the software once (or in this case the hardware that comes with a software license). You get bugfix patches and minor updates for a year. Next year the next version releases with major new features, and you either pay the price of an update or you stay on the version you are on. Good incentives fo…

Total Commander is pay once, free updates forever. It's over 30 years old now.

RAR / WinRAR - same and it's even older.

Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

#199
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To be fair, some software does rot. But when you have control of the hardware and the software, rot is pretty uncommon. Honestly, I thought the whole point was to make a popular unified platform where the community could come together and expand on it. I really can't imagine a centralized player can predict nor create all features that users might want. But it seems like Flipper did the right thing: make the software…

Software rot is mostly about dependency size, ne? I'm curious if the agentic-based code flows will start to optimize higher-order programming goals in future evolutions. 1. Code works 2. Code works in all situations 3. Code uses defensive practices for unanticipated situations 4. Code is maintainable 5. Code is well architected 6. Code minimizes impact of rot Right now, it feels like AI coding is ~2.5, if left to its…

I think you're over generalizing. Software rot happens for a multitude of reasons

  - hardware changes
  - firmware changes
  - operating system changes
  - dependencies change
  - bits flip, thanks cosmic rays!

  > Right now, it feels like AI coding is ~2.5
A lot of people would argue that it's not even 1. I'd argue it sits between 0.7 and 1.2 given the task.

I don't think it's close to 2. It's hyper fixated on task implementation. It's really bad at abstractions, even when requested. You have to be pretty precise over these instructions. I've only seen it develop well, even with explicit instructions, a handful of times. But hey, that's true about a lot of people too. Though people will not claim to have solved the proper generalization, people will just say "I just care that it works", which is kinda why AI is trained that way. It's not being programmed by your Knuths, it's being programmed by your Zuckerbergs.

Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

#200
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Is... that possible? I thought the whole point is that those were a challenge-response specifically to avoid ever them disclosing over the air the material necessary to impersonate one.

You're thinking of NFC, not RFID, and with NFC the owner might not have changed the default keys. It's a common mix-up (people barely differentiate between the terms anymore, though I'm surprised nobody in 2 hours mentioned it yet), basically RFID is (historically) an ID; a username. Like an ID field in a database. NFC is near-field communication : bidirectional. It does challenge-response and typically runs on harde…

> and with NFC the owner might not have changed the default keys

Or the use case doesn't depend on any protected bits. A lot of NFC chips are being used as glorified ID tags even if the hardware could do more. And what actual security the hardware provides varies a lot - it's more like a gradient from dumb ID to full java card than a clean distinction.

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