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I had no way to know it was years ago, and I don’t consider buying used and flashing “giving Google my money”. Although it definitely enables the market for Pixels, they definitely don’t make much (if any) money selling Pixels, due to they’re being cheap-yet-flagship devices. It might even hurt Google for you to buy them and not capture all your data with their OS!
How are new pixels cheap?
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Straight up conspiracy theories you're spreading here. Daniel Micay is Canadian, Dmytro Mukhomor is Ukrainian (he was literally conscripted into the Ukrainian army last year), and Khalykbek Yelshibekov is from Kazakhstan. > Micay is somewhat Russian-sounding too Sorry what?
Any source for that, though?
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How are new pixels cheap?
Compare to comparable iPhone or Galaxy Phone hardware.
Compared to Samsungs, they seem to have comparable prices for less performing hardware, to me.
But what about all the other phones?
Are all Chinese manufacturers selling at a loss?
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Huh. I really don't see the point of this, vs something like GrapheneOS. Edit: I'm well aware of the differences between typical Linux and Android (especially the security architecture!), and I'm willing to make some sacrifices in the name of FOSS... but only if it's actually FOSS.
I read somewhere that the owners have ties to russia, but the most important thing is that they’re marketing very aggressively through posts that slander GraphenOS.
FWIW, as someone who is not in the phone OS development world at all but has been reviewing phones with alternative OSes for about the last 4 years...
My impression is that everyone else in the phone-OS and deGoogled-Android world hates the GrapheneOS folks, and it's mutual. They seem to be borderline impossible to work with, very arrogant and protectionist, and the project's own support lifetime is "when Google no longer supports your phone, we don't either."
Personally, I'd choose something else. Anything else, in fact.
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Compare to comparable iPhone or Galaxy Phone hardware.
Compared to iPhones yeah, they're a bit cheaper. Compared to Samsungs, they seem to have comparable prices for less performing hardware, to me. But what about all the other phones? Are all Chinese manufacturers selling at a loss?
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Compared to iPhones yeah, they're a bit cheaper. Compared to Samsungs, they seem to have comparable prices for less performing hardware, to me. But what about all the other phones? Are all Chinese manufacturers selling at a loss?
No, their costs are way lower.
Pixels are manufactured in China, Vietnam and India.
Maybe their flash gates are made by hand, given how much more they ask for decent storage amounts...
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No, their costs are way lower.
How? Pixels are manufactured in China, Vietnam and India. Maybe their flash gates are made by hand, given how much more they ask for decent storage amounts...
so not sold at the same rate.
Price goes down when you do a run of 10 million boards
vs 1 million.
(and or the facility making them is yours!)
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How? Pixels are manufactured in China, Vietnam and India. Maybe their flash gates are made by hand, given how much more they ask for decent storage amounts...
But not sold there, so not sold at the same rate. Price goes down when you do a run of 10 million boards vs 1 million. (and or the facility making them is yours!)
Not to mention that the Pixels were a lot more convenient years ago, when they sold a lot less.
I think you're clutching at straws here, Pixels were cheapish in the first versions, but are not anymore ;)
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I read somewhere that the owners have ties to russia, but the most important thing is that they’re marketing very aggressively through posts that slander GraphenOS.
> posts that slander GraphenOS. FWIW, as someone who is not in the phone OS development world at all but has been reviewing phones with alternative OSes for about the last 4 years... My impression is that everyone else in the phone-OS and deGoogled-Android world hates the GrapheneOS folks, and it's mutual. They seem to be borderline impossible to work with, very arrogant and protectionist, and the project's own suppo…
I don't think that is true. Team members regularly speak positively of iPhone security. E.g.:
https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/113874795519341571
They also do not post much on LineageOS and when they do it usually articulates the difference between both (with LineageOS focusing more on customizability, while being much less secure).
I think the strongest disagreement is with /e/OS, which is not surprising, because their founder goes around to various widely-viewed/read media insinuating that security hardening/GrapheneOS is only for pedophiles and spies.
They seem to be borderline impossible to work with, very arrogant and protectionist,
As a user, they seem to be responsive to bug reports and actively helping out people in their forums. Not sure what else I need.
and the project's own support lifetime is "when Google no longer supports your phone, we don't either."
But that makes sense, right? One of the main foci of GrapheneOS is security. If Google stops supporting a Pixel model, there will be no more updates of firmware bundles, etc. Most firmware has monthly CVEs, pretending that it doesn't would go counter one of the main goals of GrapheneOS. If you want to maintain such a phone as an insecure device after Google's update period, there are other options you could switch to.
I am also not sure how much this matters. Even Pixel budget devices (a-series) have 7 years of security updates now. It's not only one of the longest in the industry, it's probably beyond how long 95% of the population uses a phone.