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Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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I suspect that these prices are going to seriously dent sales. RAM is getting crushed. I bet the next step is going to be dumb terminals and centralisation onto all the hardware that the cloud companies bought up for AI and found wasn't possible to get any ROI out. Bezos was all over that already. We are truly entering the dark ages of personal computing.

I'm sure they've done the math. Mac has ~8% revenue share for Apple and I (naively) assume they'll just account for a 20% drop in sales with 20% higher prices. Personally, if my Mac were to die right now, I'd scream and shout (well, I'd use Apple Care...), but I won't go back to a Linux laptop, since I'm too deep into the ecosystem. And I suspect I'm not alone. fwiw, I don't hate the thin-client model for dev work (v…

Same boat here. If I had to, I could grab an Air instead and do more work over ssh. I prefer to keep things local, but it's not a huge deal breaker for my work. I'm too deep in the ecosystem to get anything else, and I need Xcode anyway.

I suspect a lot of mac users are in the same place, and Apple knows it.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Related, I just realized that Apple uses the same numeric price in multiple regions but just changes the currency. At current price, you'd save $3149 USD flying from London to New York City (minus travel costs) to buy a maxed out 14" MBP vs buying it in London, since the price is 9849 GBP vs 9489 USD...

The EU price includes the warranty, which is at least 2 years but is officially for "the expected life of the product", which in the case of an $10,000 laptop would probably be a decade plus.

Do you really think the warranty justifies that price differential? A warranty only protects against manufacturers defects.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Cryptocurrencies never did this with the entire computing industry because it got its act together and efficient blockchains arrived without the need to constrain the supply of CPUs, GPUs and memory chips to the point with drastic price increases, and we have faster blockchains handling billions of transactions a week. Just look at what AI (in the form of LLMs) is doing to the rest of the computing industry because o…

Ah, come on. I remember the scalping of GPUs due to crypto-mining and then all the things Nvidia did to market segment crypto out of the regular (gaming) consumer space. AI is much worse because the scale is OOM greater, but crypto/blockchain effects on the market weren't harmless either.

> I remember the scalping of GPUs due to crypto-mining and then all the things Nvidia did to market segment crypto out of the regular (gaming) consumer space.

This happened when Ethereum was a proof-of-work (PoW) blockchain and then switched to an environmentally efficient method of consensus (Proof of Stake) which the demand for GPUs fell sharply afterwards.

> AI is much worse because the scale is OOM greater, but crypto/blockchain effects on the market weren't harmless either.

AI on the other hand has done the exact opposite and has little to show to make things efficient.

Instead, companies are buying up the world's supply of GPUs and building hundreds of data centers because that is the laziest way to scale up and then laying you off to pay for it all.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Devs reading this, please start making your apps less memory hungry. All the people running any computer appreciate.

Realistically this will just be used to force people into even more subscriptions.

Want to edit a video? Pay a subscription for a Microslop Pro Max Windows $50/mo, then pay another $50 the NVidia Pro GPU add-on (the gaming version is slightly cheaper, but we can't let you use that since it's against the ToS), then another $50/mo for Adobe Premiere + $20 extra for the 4K export option. But you've already used up your monthly quota for it, so you pay another $50 for reset the limit. Then your machine doesn't have enough storage, I guess it's time to upgrade the cloud storage subscription too, that will be another $50 please.

Thank you and have a nice day!

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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post #140

I suspect that these prices are going to seriously dent sales. RAM is getting crushed. I bet the next step is going to be dumb terminals and centralisation onto all the hardware that the cloud companies bought up for AI and found wasn't possible to get any ROI out. Bezos was all over that already. We are truly entering the dark ages of personal computing.

The MacBook Neo went from $599 to $699. That's still significantly more powerful than anything you could buy at that price point last year.

I’m not happy with the price increases either, but saying this is the end of personal computing or that the next step is dumb terminals for everyone is very the-sky-is-falling.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Apple doesn't like to be held hostage, it has the cash coffers, so it wouldn't surprise me if they're somehow buying dedicated production capacity for the future.

Not that they will start making memory themselves, but they have bankrolled production expansions in their suppliers before in exchange for guaranteed supply.

In any case, if my guess is right, it would take years to take effect.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Supply chain crunches are not unique or new. It happens. Earth is flooded with powerful smartphones, Mac’s are already on M5 generation. Most people already get most of their computing from their phone. We will be fine.

You mean the same phones that we own less and less with each passing day? I cannot even turn off OS updates anymore. Is it even my phone if I can't do whatever I want with it?

What does this have to do with this thread? Go buy any other device then. My point is the doom and gloom is overblown, we have massively powerful devices already, no dark age is coming.

This has no bearing on your perception of ownership of your mobile device.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Base iPad went up almost 30%, including refurbs. Was recommending one to my parents for $299 - now it’s $379.

I bought one last month for $299. Now the Apple Store is showing $449

Just bought a new iPad A16 128GB from Staples website a few minutes ago for $279

https://slickdeals.net/f/19653138-update-apple-price-increas...

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