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Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Post by close04 »

dmos62 wrote: post #152
cm2187 wrote: post #119

I enjoy windows 10 hugely now that it is out of support. It became way better when microsoft started tormenting the users of win11 instead of win10, and now that windows update doesn't bring new catastrophes and unexpected reboot, the OS is finally not interfering with usage anymore.

Note, there is a way to turn on extended support (updates). I'm getting updates on my w10. And random restarts, argh. Googling it should be enough to find it.

They're hosted on GitHub [1], if that's not implicit support from Microsoft, I don't know what is.

[1] https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Post by eur0pa »

tommica wrote: post #136
cm2187 wrote: post #119

I enjoy windows 10 hugely now that it is out of support. It became way better when microsoft started tormenting the users of win11 instead of win10, and now that windows update doesn't bring new catastrophes and unexpected reboot, the OS is finally not interfering with usage anymore.

You are not worried about 0-days and other malware?

No.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Post by sensanaty »

tommica wrote: post #136
cm2187 wrote: post #119

I enjoy windows 10 hugely now that it is out of support. It became way better when microsoft started tormenting the users of win11 instead of win10, and now that windows update doesn't bring new catastrophes and unexpected reboot, the OS is finally not interfering with usage anymore.

You are not worried about 0-days and other malware?

Microsoft already handles infecting their users, how many times have they broken Windows 11 through patches?

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Post by jasode »

sviruz wrote: post #169
tommica wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are not worried about 0-days and other malware?

Running Windows 10 Enterprise IoT LTSC still gives you updates until 2031 with the added benefit of no app store. I run it as my main OS since last October and have yet to encounter any issues.

>Running Windows 10 Enterprise IoT LTSC [...] have yet to encounter any issues.

It depends on the type of software a user runs. I installed Windows 10 LTSC on a friend's computer last year thinking she could run it for at least 5 more years and just ignore the newer Windows 11/12/whatever.

But she needed Intuit TurboTax 2025 and it requires Windows 11 and it's a hard requirement. The installer aborts on Windows 10. It's not a soft requirement like Adobe where they only support Windows 11 but their installer still runs on Windows 10. Autodesk Fusion 360 is another example that requires Windows 11.

I'm guessing if there's a future Windows 12, Intuit TurboTax will be aggressive about making it a requirement that forces the issue even though nobody wants to upgrade to it.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Post by Havoc »

password4321 wrote: post #34

I was in a hurry trying to log into my kid's Minecraft account, wound up clicking something to associate it with the Windows account... now the PC is in restricted mode and I'm having a hard time restoring the previously associated Microsoft account (among other things, have to ask permission to open the browser and approve the requests logging in on my phone)! Everything online says to use the option to switch to a…

Pretty sure I’ve got multiple copies of Minecraft thanks to Microsoft login bullshit.

Recently moved desktop to Linux though so hopefully don’t need to deal with them again

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Post by vladvasiliu »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #79
xg15 wrote: post #6

> "To avoid the next problem: 'Microsoft locked my data behind bitlocker, and now I can't get it back.' they need to store that key on the MS account." Doesn't that make the account requirement even more scary? So now if MS decides for some reason to lock my account, this will make even the data I have on my local disks inaccessible as well?

You can save your recovery key in different formats (printed, on a USB stick, etc). The online recovery is just automatic.

I think that when you have an MS account with the automatic online key backup, BitLocker is actually turned on automatically, and the user isn't presented with the option to back it up elsewhere. You need to know about this, and manually back it up.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Post by GordonS »

cafebabbe wrote: post #188
giancarlostoro wrote: post #106

I ditched Windows in 2022. I'm not going back to Windows unless Microsoft makes an OS for professionals that is stripped down out of the box to show how serious they are. No ads of any kind, no garbage online account features, nothing, just core offline-ready Windows. I bet it would perform drastically better too.

Same (2024), but i wouldn't come back in a hurry if they did so. Basically everything works now in Linux world, including my obscure devices, music & video editing, and my whole steam library... with better performance. It's sort of insane.

I just installed Bazzite-DX, and have been really surprised with how easy it was to install, and how well everything "just works". It even tells me when my wireless keyboard batteries are running out, something Windows couldn't do without running proprietary Logitech software.

Re: Windows 11 users are tired of MS account requirements creeping into everything

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Post by pmontra »

simianwords wrote: post #184
cjs_ac wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft is called Microsoft because they make software for microcomputers. Networking and multi-user systems aren’t in their DNA.

Didn’t you just need one person to say something like requiring human intervention to provision servers is not scalable? It doesn’t require an expert to think of this really.

To be fair to them, one or two servers were enough for basically every single service back in the 90s when consumers started moving to the internet. Microsoft sold what they had. Their customers bought what they were used to. The usual stack was a mainframe or an AS400 exporting a file full of records. A Windows NT PC imported the file in either Oracle or SQL Server and served HTML pages either with ASP or Java. Then export from the local db, import into the AS400. The internet facing system was a bolted on afterthought.

Of course it was still a pain compared to command line, unless you grew up with only a Windows PC or a Mac under your fingers. No CLI on Macs until Apple rebuilt the OS on Unix so you didn't even know what a CLI was.

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