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Is it public good? Or is that a coincidence covering the real motive of an attempt to undermine the viability of American companies?
What?
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Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source
#192Pretty neat that you can just install it and start using it (at a Sonnet 4.6-level model) without needing to sign in or pay. Typically, Chinese websites are a big pain to log in or sign up because they require a +86 phone number due to legal reasons. Being able to use it without having to make an account is amazing for friction reduction. I could probably even just install it onto new machines to help with set up. I…
> at a Sonnet 4.6-level model MiMo v2.5.0-Pro is honestly the first Chinese model that I've tried where I really though why should I use Claude Sonnet when I can get the same results for a fraction of the cost. There was always something off about Chinese models that made it apparent that it couldn't fully compete with GPT, Claude, Gemini, etc. but this was the first model where I was like, this feels like Sonnet. I…
I find deepseek-v4-pro to be every bit as good as sonnet tbh
Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source
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#194Xiaomi have been cooking a lot in recent times. Their model, especially the pro series, is underrated in my opinion. It haven't received the attention it deserves while it is pushing higher and higher in benchmark scores (looking at artifical analysis), and this was before Deepseek dropped V4. Furthermore, their pricing plan is insanely cheap, they even upped usage limit for their cheapest plan, lite plan, which is a…
>Furthermore, their pricing plan is insanely cheap, they even upped usage limit for their cheapest plan, lite plan, which is at 5$ / month.
Unless something changed their plans aren't really worth getting. They're not that much cheaper than the per-token rates, and because it's a plan, you have to contend with weird usage restrictions. You're better off paying per-token unless you have some use case that demands a very steady stream of tokens.
Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source
#195Good, coding harnesses should be open source and LLMs should be treated as commodities. Minimize switching costs for consumers, and let people understand how they're interacting with the context and the LLM outputs. The industry has been moving the wrong direction with Claude Code staying closed (despite multiple times leaking the source code!) and the open source Gemini CLI being deprecated in favor of closed source…
Why would a company do any of these things? What is their motivation for any of it? That’s like saying cloud providers should be commodity and should open source all of their platforms and eliminate egress fees so customers can easily leave at any point in time. That’s a charity, not a business model.
Maybe these things should be utilities that can be swapped out at will and shouldn’t even be privately owned at all? Heresy, I know!
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#196Redditors are unhappy about their coding plan: https://www.reddit.com/r/opencodeCLI/comments/1t37dz3/xiaomi... I guess the way to use their models is through another provider, like https://opencode.ai/go
Things have improved a lot since last month. Now their cheapest plan gives you 4.1B credits and I think the cache situation has improved too.
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would a company do any of these things? What is their motivation for any of it? That’s like saying cloud providers should be commodity and should open source all of their platforms and eliminate egress fees so customers can easily leave at any point in time. That’s a charity, not a business model.
> That’s a charity, not a business model. Joel Spolsky in 2002 identified a major pattern in technology business & economics: The pattern of "commoditizing your complement", an alternative to vertical integration, where companies seek to secure a choke point or quasi-monopoly in products composed of many necessary & sufficient layers by dominating one layer while fostering so much competition in another layer above o…
Here's the Spolsky article, called "Strategy Letter V": https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2002/06/12/strategy-letter-v/
Here's links to the whole series up to VI: https://lettersremain.com/joel-spolsky-on-strategy/
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#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
> That’s a charity, not a business model. Joel Spolsky in 2002 identified a major pattern in technology business & economics: The pattern of "commoditizing your complement", an alternative to vertical integration, where companies seek to secure a choke point or quasi-monopoly in products composed of many necessary & sufficient layers by dominating one layer while fostering so much competition in another layer above o…
> it can be more valuable to make it free if it increases profits elsewhere. That's a big "if" for Claude Code, et al.
Is it? Seems from the outside that it was the thing that finally drove Anthropic into profitability.
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> it can be more valuable to make it free if it increases profits elsewhere. That's a big "if" for Claude Code, et al.
Is it? Seems from the outside that it was the thing that finally drove Anthropic into profitability.
What drove them to profitability?
Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source
#200Let the battle for the harnesses give free tokens for all, until the next competition arena does the same. It seems that's the only way AI will remain acessible.
This website is gorgeous, by the way. The mouse reveal on the background, amazing.