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Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by danudey »

ramijames wrote: post #118
jstummbillig wrote: post #108

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How are Google products anything but outstanding in their categories? What are you comparing to?

Have you tried to admin a large team using Google's admin? :(

Do they have any supported way to export a user's account (e-mail, calendars, etc) for offline archiving yet? I used to have to reset their password, disable their 2FA, log in as their user, initiate a 'Takeout' request to export their account data into an archive, wait until the request was done (between minutes and days depending on the account), download it manually (often in chunks if it was large enough), store it somewhere, and then delete it and delete the account.

I can't imagine that no other 'Google Workspace' organizations want to actually save their employee data rather than irrevocably delete it forever.

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by pigeons »

stouset wrote: post #173
Dylan16807 wrote: post #166

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"defined their product category" means it used to be outstanding, not that it currently is outstanding. "among the most popular" doesn't need either of those to be true.

As a concrete example, Windows defined the product category. And it is still the most popular desktop operating system in the world by far. Few here would argue that it’s an outstanding product.

More than plenty of people (including me) would argue that Windows is an awful product, but a quite significant number of people (maybe even including me) would argue that its an outstanding product.

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by danudey »

otikik wrote: post #132
jstummbillig wrote: post #108

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How are Google products anything but outstanding in their categories? What are you comparing to?

Maybe you are not counting the products they kill.

A lot of the products they killed were promising, it's just that Google just has no stomach for investing in anything for the long haul if it's not going to either capture the entire market or prevent someone else from capturing the entire market.

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by danudey »

dist-epoch wrote: post #120
jstummbillig wrote: post #108

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How are Google products anything but outstanding in their categories? What are you comparing to?

The about 7 different text chat applications they had? At some point GoogleTalk was one of the leading global text messengers, and then it was basically destroyed by Google itself.

Depending on what you mean by 'chat', Google has had a lot, but this list includes a lot more than 7 text chat services. https://www.reddit.com/r/google/comments/s2s2ld/all_of_googl...

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by danudey »

dotancohen wrote: post #65
elxr wrote: post #59

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I'm obviously not just prompting agents for everything. What are you on about? Why would I build my little web-apps and backends in the cloud when I can run things faster locally?

> Why would I build my little web-apps and backends in the cloud when I can run things faster locally? Because the company that designed and built your Chromebook made that the easy path.

Up until they stop subsidizing things and you have to pay what things actually cost.

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by danudey »

Danox wrote: post #169
ericd wrote: post #126

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I absolutely want AI in my OS. I just want it to be one I can trust to serve my interests, and not the company's. I'm literally in the middle of baking one in as I type this.

Microsoft implementation of Copilot is bad. It’s like they’re trying too hard and the reason they’re probably trying too hard is that they have no real presence in mobile computing, like Intel they have a hard time competing when the playing field is level.

They were too late to the party on music players (which people wanted), mobile devices being any good (which people wanted), and cloud services (which people wanted), so now they're going to be damned if they're going to be late to the party on AI (which nobody wants).

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by danudey »

rvz wrote: post #94
sudohackthenews wrote: post #26

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Probably because they vibecoded it

Correct and they have no idea what they are doing.

I mean, that's kind of a stretch given how popular and well-regarded Claude Code is at this point. They're not perfect but they seem to be the best out there at this point.

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by danudey »

dbmikus wrote: post #172

Understand that it is annoying to spin up a heavyweight VM whenever running Claude Desktop, but I actually think per-app + agent virtualization is the future. Next version of an app is: 1. micro VM 2. agent on the VM 3. software bundled into the VM Then the agent is totally sandboxed at the hardware virtualization level. It can use the software tools on the VM or write its own. VM can control which software is "froze…

Not sure if this is deliberate or not but you're describing Docker Sandbox extremely closely. https://www.docker.com/products/docker-sandboxes/
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