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Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by riazrizvi »

MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #184
riazrizvi wrote: post #28

It's very sad to see Apple using these lowbrow Microsoft tactics. Press ganging your users into launching your other shit product is brand cannibalism.

> lowbrow Microsoft tactics It's funny you say this because when I read the solution my first thought was that's such an Apple thing .

Probably a generational and professional divide. I switched to Apple after a decade of coding on Windows, in 2006 when they were known for introducing UNIX as a commercial platform that effectively killed planned obsolescence in consumer software platforms. I'm still on their system today enjoying the fruits of that pivot that Steve Jobs effected with the NeXT team.

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by rossng »

jacobsenscott wrote: post #26
ASalazarMX wrote: post #21

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> this app I've never used and don't want launches I'm by no way an Apple fan, but why not uninstall the app if you don't need it?

It cannot be uninstalled

I only recently discovered that not only can you not uninstall Apple's bloatware - you can't even hide it in a folder!

I just can't understand why I have to have my list of useful apps interspersed with cruft like Books.app or Journal.app.

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by iAMkenough »

some_random wrote: post #132
riazrizvi wrote: post #28

It's very sad to see Apple using these lowbrow Microsoft tactics. Press ganging your users into launching your other shit product is brand cannibalism.

Are you kidding me? You are not being "press ganged", when you try to play music the music player shipped with the OS is opened.

I'm not trying to play music. I'm not even logged into the Apple Music app.

I'm just trying to put my bluetooth earbud in my ear to make a Teams call, and 1/3 of the time I get an onboarding prompt to join Apple Music on my work computer. Can't turn it off.

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by ghrl »

delduca wrote: post #101

I use https://github.com/tombonez/noTunes

Yeah, I used that too on my last Mac. But the page explicitly states the benefits of this approach (preventing it from launching all together without doing anything vs listening for the launch and killing it). It also does not use a menu bar icon, which is also good considering the limited space.

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by coldtea »

ryandrake wrote: post #71
embedding-shape wrote: post #58

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Yeah, right? Seems obvious to me. If I press "Backspace" and there is nothing to go back to, or to remove, I expect the key to do nothing. Same for Escape, or Volume Up, or whatever. If it can't do what's expected, it does nothing. Feels like at one point all the people who spent decades building OSes and desktop environment left Apple and Microsoft, and the people left are brand new developers who only been using co…

No other key on my keyboard opens an application. I don't see why there should be one special key that operates that way.

The search key opens the Spotlight panel, and the speech key opens Dictation...

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by butlike »

dijit wrote: post #190
al_borland wrote: post #79

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You can turn off the cloud service in Apple Music and still use it with your local tracks and music downloaded from the iTunes Music Store (which still exists). I did this for most of last year. I had all local music in Apple Music, disabled the cloud stuff, and synced it all to my iPhone by plugging it in with a cable, as if it was an old iPod. It all still worked.

You can, but basically every menu assumes Apple Music as a service, and its worse with each version. You can technically still buy albums, but you can really tell its only there because it was forgotten about.

Buy albums from Bandcamp. You can download them in multiple different formats and the artist gets one of the best cuts

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by jonhohle »

embedding-shape wrote: post #58
wk_end wrote: post #50

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If there’s no media session available, “play” isn’t an action that makes any sense, so it shouldn’t do anything IMO.

Yeah, right? Seems obvious to me. If I press "Backspace" and there is nothing to go back to, or to remove, I expect the key to do nothing. Same for Escape, or Volume Up, or whatever. If it can't do what's expected, it does nothing. Feels like at one point all the people who spent decades building OSes and desktop environment left Apple and Microsoft, and the people left are brand new developers who only been using co…

Dating Fireball just posted about how broken SwiftUI is for basic things AppKit was doing correctly in the late 90s (undo/redo)[0].

I think peak productivity for desktops was probably hit about 10 years ago. Most things since then are worse, and the best things from macOS (drag and drop everything nearly anywhere, consistent keyboard shortcuts and interfaces, scriptability of everything, etc.) were never copied by other systems.

Now systems are being designed to follow Node JS-style development which doesn’t work like a normal thing anywhere and native apps are just as bad as electron apps from a usability perspective…

At least they can be vibe coded since Interface Builder is no longer needed?

0 - https://daringfireball.net/2026/06/swiftui_only_makes_it_eas...

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by Ringz »

cj wrote: post #146
gausswho wrote: post #140

After I discovered my Mac Mini was downloading animated wallpapers until filling up 80Gb of space, then doing it all over again every time I reboot, I decided I'd had enough and installed LuLu firewall and blocked every outbound to apple.com. I don't use any of their services anyway, and some of them approach malware suspicion (keyboard input analytics daemon??)

I encourage you to look into Little Snitch.

Whats the difference between LS and LuLu. I have an old LS license and after I switched to LuLu I didn’t miss anything.

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by antoineMoPa »

parl_match wrote: post #171
antoineMoPa wrote: post #134

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There are multiple different sources that the user might want to start playing. Browser tab A/B/C (example: web radios), a music application or music service website in a tab that's not even opened yet (eg: spotify), the last video tab they opened (ex: youtube). Whatever is the last thing that was paused should play IMHO. If nothing was paused, it should do nothing. Else, you open a pandora's box of possibly wrong ch…

> Whatever is the last thing that was paused should play IMHO That's currently how it works. This is purely an issue and complaint for when nothing at all was playing or open, and an app hasn't currently registered a handler. If you land on a fresh desktop from reboot and press play, what should happen?

In my experience, this is a more frequent issue. At least 1 time per day, I hit play hoping to play Spotify in a browser tab or some radio tab and for some reason it opens Apple Music instead. Sometimes it could be an issue on my side, ex: the tab is dead or not even opened.

But whatever, the experience is bad: I have to wait for the Music application startup time, then click the context menu and select "Quit Apple Music". It feels like being forced to watch a product ad. Opening Apple Music is never what I want. Imagine if pressing shift opened TextEdit by default, that would be silly. Or doing CMD-v where you can't paste would automatically pop up some random app.

I feel like no machine response is a correct UX pattern in this case. The absence of sound playback would indicate to me that I need to do something else to play sound.

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