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Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

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Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

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Post by thin_carapace »

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #179
redbell wrote: post #178

IMHO, Meta is the prime example for privacy intrusion in tech history and with this new smart glasses device, they've leveled their game too far by recording people in their home, sometimes even naked , without their consent. This was already discussed here about a month ago: Meta in row after workers who saw smart glasses users having sex lose jobs ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47961838 )

It should be socially normalized to eject people wearing these from your premises and/or life. I don’t care what convenience feature this possibly has, if you’re wearing a data miner you have no place near me. Fuck off.

haha maybe you are down voted for the crass expression but I do agree with the sentiment - I never gave consent to be filmed in public, let alone for the express purpose of assisting zuckerbergs torture nexus (or for filling his minions' spank bank apparently). however I don't know of any precedent that considers physical violence as a valid response to being filmed without consent

Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

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Post by clumsysmurf »

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #179
redbell wrote: post #178

IMHO, Meta is the prime example for privacy intrusion in tech history and with this new smart glasses device, they've leveled their game too far by recording people in their home, sometimes even naked , without their consent. This was already discussed here about a month ago: Meta in row after workers who saw smart glasses users having sex lose jobs ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47961838 )

It should be socially normalized to eject people wearing these from your premises and/or life. I don’t care what convenience feature this possibly has, if you’re wearing a data miner you have no place near me. Fuck off.

I had an appliance delivered from Home Depot, and after it was installed, the person mentioned he had Meta glasses on. I didn't realize the whole time he was wearing them in my home, because I didn't know what they looked like. I felt uneasy.

Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

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Post by godelski »

Andrex wrote: post #170
RobotToaster wrote: post #29

I wish something like this existed that was completely offline. I'm face blind (prosopagnosia) so being able to feed an offline database photos of friends so it can recognise them would be great. Accessibility shouldn't require giving up privacy.

Meta has to release the hardware, then we can get started on alternate OSes. It's a shame open source hardware isn't a thing in this area, but we've been here before. (Buying locked down devices and installing alt OSes.)

All hardware is open if you're willing to open it up ;)

But reverse engineering isn't as easy as my snarky response implies. But I do think more of us should get into hardware hacking. It's the only way we have to fight back. I'm tired of this "own nothing" paradigm and being forced into whatever dumb thing they want is to do. And it's so dumb too. There's not many power users but there's a disproportionate amount of resources dedicated to fucking us over

Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

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Post by e12e »

jabedude wrote: post #187
RobotToaster wrote: post #29

I wish something like this existed that was completely offline. I'm face blind (prosopagnosia) so being able to feed an offline database photos of friends so it can recognise them would be great. Accessibility shouldn't require giving up privacy.

Apple is the only company doing this sort of processing

And Google?

Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

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Post by 404mm »

threwrfaway wrote: post #103

Start up idea: Ordinary glass (as in spectacles) frames that have a near IR LED on the bridge and on the side. PWM to be efficient, bright, but erratic clock of around 10Hz. Want a picture of me? Ask, or use film.

Surely there’s gotta be some narrow frequency band that disrupts it from working, right? I’m getting really tired of all the cameras and ALPRs around us.

Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

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Post by neilv »

Ideas for what individuals can do about this and related awful tech:

1. Ask your local and state governments to completely ban "stalkerware" and "Big Tech surveillanceware" (like will use this and other face recognition), as well as ban using hidden cameras (including in these glasses) to photograph/video people.

2. Tell everyone, before their buy the glasses, what a "glasshole" is.

3. Social negative feedback to people who wear these. Tell your friends if they're being inconsiderate. Tell coworkers it's inappropriate in the workplace. Frown at strangers who do it. Tell apparent creepers to stop, and/or consider calling the police.

4. Social negative feedback to people who work at the companies pushing this tech. There's plenty of tech talent on the job market. Why consider someone who continued to work for one of the companies, in some cases after years of sociopathic abuses of society?

5. Be skeptical of influencers and astroturfing shills promoting the products.

Other ideas?

Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

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Post by trumpdong »

zaptheimpaler wrote: post #176
idle_zealot wrote: post #126

How does HN feel about this as a general ethos: - Computers can do as much work as they want to automatically, so long as none of it touches a network boundary. - Any time a computer wants to touch the network it must be explicitly initiated by a human action. Sort of like how in browsers capturing the mouse or entering fullscreen mode requires a trusted user action and isn't something a page can do unilaterally, but…

Yes that would be great. Right now, there are many applications that use pinned certificates to communicate to servers meaning there is literally no way to see the data your own device is sending/receiving from the internet. It's an insane thing that should be banned.

There is one way, you can modify the app or the OS to change which certificate is pinned, ignore all certificate failures, lie about the certificate in use, log encryption keys, or not even ask the app whether it likes the certificate.

Not on iOS, of course.

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