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Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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Wouldn't it be easier to prove that Florida causes an increase in murders and suicides. I live on the other side of the world, but it has somewhat of a reputation.

Florida ranks in the middle of U.S. states for homicides and does substantially better than the median for suicides. The reputation of Florida comes from having a very broad public records law that requires publication of numerous details of police reports that in other states is kept confidential. That means that sensational stories are much more likely to make it into the news: https://digitalcommons.wcl.american.e…

Uh, that link says exactly the opposite:

>The problem with this theory is that it incorrectly implies that Florida's Public Records Law offers journalists advantages in writing stories that other states' laws do not. Despite the broad grant of access to police documents that Florida'sopen records law provides, other states' open records laws similarly provide the public with access to arrest records, incident reports, and, although to a lesser extent, mugshots. Other provisions of Florida'sPublic Records Law that contribute to the ease of access to Florida'spublic records compared with other states equivalent laws are largely irrelevant to FloridaMan's existence. Even coupled with the characteristics of Floridaandits residents that many people claim are unique, the open records law-based theory for Florida Man's existence falls short of explaining the phenomenon.

Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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I have to wonder if settling on the term "AI" for these tools has caused the average person to overestimate the capabilities of them. Anyone in tech and tech-adjacent industries knows the difference and that we shouldn't be calling LLMs AI. And that a true AGI is not possible with this technology. Would this lawsuit even be a thing? That and DeSantis is probably still eyeing a presidential run in 2028 and this will w…

> Anyone in tech and tech-adjacent industries knows the difference and that we shouldn't be calling LLMs AI.

Are we reading the same Hacker News comments sections?

Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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Coincidentally, Florida was the same state that barred and later disbarred Jack Thompson, the nutcase lawyer behind a lot of the video game litigation.

Back when Florida was still a normal state. It’s been crazy here for a while now.

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Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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This is closer to the cases where girlfriends or spouses spent weeks trying to get their person to kill themself. Having a clearly defined log of repeatedly telling someone how and to kill themself is to my non lawyer eyes just the teeniest bit worse. I’m no lawyer though so maybe potato po-kill your spouse with a claw hammer-tato. They do sound very similar. Please tell me more.

Do you have a link to a transcript where that happened? In all the cases I've seen, the user seemed highly motivated to kill themselves and spent a lot of time trying to push past guardrails, ignoring repeated messages to seek help.

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Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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Beyond the info and guidance, there's also the classic sycophantic encouragement. Humans are allowed to publish the Anarchist's Cookbook, but they tend to get into trouble when it becomes "based on your manifesto, I would suggest the following targets". Of course, AI isn't human, and treating a software program like a human probably isn't good law, but OpenAI are very keen to suggest it's legally equivalent to a huma…

> OpenAI are very keen to suggest it's legally equivalent to a human when it suits them When is/was that? (Not rhetorical)

When it wants fair use exemptions for unauthorized uploads of content into an information retrieval system because that's how humans learn...

Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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Claims in the lawsuit seem sketchy, and I don't think they will win. It is probably not true that ChatGPT has resulted in an increase in murders and suicides, and certainly it would be very difficult to prove liability on OpenAI for this. It reminds me of the campaign in the 90s against video game manufacturers for "corrupting the youth". But I also don't think they expect to win. They just want to show that they're…

At the end of the article, the main guy says he wants tech companies to report your conversations to the authorities if bad content is detected. That’s their goal, apparently

Anecdotally, my sister has become addicted to Copilot and uses it to replace face-to-face communication. I suspect she is not the first, nor even in the first million to become addicted to it.

There's no legal privacy such as doctor-patient confidentiality or lawyer-client confidentiality. It would not surprise me that people want some sort of guardrails protecting the public from recipes-to-do-evil. Based on how much pushback the AI industry has been doing in response to guardrails about hate speech or porn, I expect this to be fought to the death by the AI industry.

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