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What Is a Dickover?

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Re: What Is a Dickover?

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Post by hmstx »

> But some sneaky, cowardly bastards sucker-punch you with their dickbars only after you have started reading, and begin to scroll down the page.

Yeah, about that, news websites who want to sell me a subscription. I appreciate what you are trying to do, but can you please wait until I've read at least one or two sentences (let alone the short preview of your paywalled articles) BEFORE you dickoverslap me to consider subscribing?

By the time the thing comes up, I haven't even been able to tell whether your writer can form a coherent sentence. "Subscribe PLZ" at that point will make sure I barely even consider staying for the rest of it.

Re: What Is a Dickover?

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Post by watusername »

adrian_b wrote: post #136

For me the fact that dickovers are possible is a bug in all JavaScript interpreters. In my opinion, any decent browser should make impossible both dickovers and also other related hostile actions, like the possibility for a Web page to modify the right-click menu or to prevent text selection. Unfortunately completely disabling scripts is rarely a solution, because many sites do not work at all. But the kind of action…

CSS is what allows dickovers to work, not JS, and pure-CSS dickovers are possible [0] :P

[0]: https://hunzaboy.github.io/Light-Modal

Re: What Is a Dickover?

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Post by rpdillon »

appplication wrote: post #188
jerhewet wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

uBlock Origin. Right-click, Block Element, click "Create", done.

No, not done. You then have to do it over and over and over and over on every new website you visit.

Enable this instead: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets/blob/master/filters/...

Re: What Is a Dickover?

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Post by jason_oster »

threecheese wrote: post #189
crote wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you considered just not violating anyone's privacy? Cookie banners aren't a force of nature. They are required solely because you want to track people. Not tracking people? No need for a cookie banner!

Unfortunately you need cookies for any good user analytics; and no, I don’t mean the invasive kind that Marketing put in - I mean the kind which allows you to figure out why your site is broken. Which ironically are the same tools you’d need to find out if your users are experiencing unintentional dickovers.

You don't need tracking cookies to log RED metrics.

Re: What Is a Dickover?

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Post by happymellon »

kcplate wrote: post #180
SoftTalker wrote: post #69

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Or your company could respect its users and only use cookies for essential site functions. Then you don't need a dickover.

We wouldn't need a dickover at all if governments didn’t regulate it either.

Even with the regulations, we don't need a dickover.

The dickover is purely spite from the websites.

Re: What Is a Dickover?

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Post by happymellon »

jerhewet wrote: post #183
michaelt wrote: post #19

I have a theory that about 97% of developers and managers completed the cookie consent (or whatever) on their own product 5 years ago and hence never see it again, and they have no idea how bad the experience for new customers actually is. So the developers and bosses all think they're doing a great job and they've got a carefully curated homepage, even though the regular users get a cloudflare captcha, then a cookie…

uBlock Origin. Right-click, Block Element, click "Create", done.

I find the scrolling hijack can kick in and I have an unresponsive page unless I disable uBlock, reject cookies, enable to remove all other crap.

Re: What Is a Dickover?

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Post by dpkirchner »

nosioptar wrote: post #177
lostlogin wrote: post #56

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Substack’s dubious practices aren’t as bad as their dubious politics. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-s...

At this point, one has to assume anyone still using substack has no problem with Nazis.

I wish they'd all host on substack.com and not their own domains. It's always uncomfortable to go to a site from HN and see that nazi-enabling substack banner.

Re: What Is a Dickover?

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Post by rubyfan »

barnabee wrote: post #135
apple4ever wrote: post #114

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A properly informed person would've understood that's what they'd do. They'd also probably realize cookies are not a big deal.

Tracking people around the web (especially without asking) is a big deal though.

Right the intention was to stop unchecked surveillance capitalism, now they use the normalcy of annoyance to wear you down such that you auto accept terms that you probably wouldn’t agree to if you read them. That’s what they want now.

This and other bad behavior will only go away when government says, “no this is predatory and you can’t do it” instead of saying “everything is OK if the user consents to it”.

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