let me pour one out for all my homies in the marketing department...
What Apple and Google are doing to push notifications
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#192I don't think I've got a push notification in awhile. Few months ago I switched to Lineageos and started using the web browser instead of apps. It's peaceful.
I still get notifications (SMS, email, calendar, etc) but nothing pushed
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#193Vast majority of software should not be able to send a push notification. Send an email if you need to alert me.
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#194Am I supposed to feel sorry for developers? How did this make it to page one?
Seeing how they think about these things can be interesting.
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Agreed. I have a doc appointment app, where I like the notifications to be on for reminders etc. Lately they started sending marketing messages through that channel. Now I’m sure it’s possible to turn off the marketing messages. But I bet most people don’t know and won’t change that. It’s super annoying.
> I’m sure it’s possible to turn off the marketing messages. Uber may have that functionality, but a surprising number of other apps don't - for example Makro, Tops, and 7/11 Thailand, three very popular Thailand retailers, use notifications for when an order is out for delivery, about to arrive, etc. But they also send constant promotion notifications every day, even with audio alerts enabled.
We must, at some point surely, reach an inflection where even everyday people are sick of this shit and start smashing their phones right?
There has always been "unpluggers" [0] amongst technologists, but the vibes are bad and getting worse. I feel like that is getting more common between "normal" people I know, but maybe outside of my country town bubble its not happening.
I was thinking we're only one or two big influencers away from a cascade, but then the ultra-influencers are never really going to commit because its their livelyhood and saying throw your phone away is self-limiting on the viral aspect.
I guess we're just stuck under the boot.
^0 https://biggaybunny.tumblr.com/post/166787080920/tech-enthus...
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#196This sure sounds like a marketer spending far too many words crying that they've lost surveillance on their customers. Boo hoo, don't care.
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
The point of notifications is the convenience of not having to constantly check your phone for every single app you have (amazon delivery? just eats delivery? uber booking? claude finished its task?).
> The point of notifications is the convenience of not having to constantly check your phone for every single app you have (amazon delivery? just eats delivery? uber booking? claude finished its task?). My phone has been on DoNoDisturb since 2010 or so. Here's the reality: I don't check for any of those things. Delivery drivers can ring the door bell. If I'm very hungry I'll keep the app open and check where they are…
Same here! If this phone made an unexpected sound I'd smash it with a brick.
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#198I need a feature to block my bank's incessant nagging about cash-back deals while keeping the ones about transactions.
Right now on iOS there is no way to do this. And yes, I've explicitly turned off the cash-back deals notifications in my bank app's settings and that is completely ignored.
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#199I feel like this article reads like the author is upset that Apple + Google prevent / control certain types of notifications (read: spam) > Cross-sell, upsell, education and discovery can work on push Push notifications should only be for transactional notifications. I don't want another inbox for junk.
I've definitely had notifications I consider spam direct from Google before. Apple/Google are not trustworthy.
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Yes… seeing my wife’s email inbox is mind blowing. Maybe she didn’t opt in, but she will never unsubscribe from anything. Emails from every site she’s ever shopped at.
I mean, it's kind of an insurmountable obstacle. Why bother trying to unsubscribe when you're always gonna get spam anyway? It's just gonna come back. Also, websites are shady. If you put in a required email, they'll usually automatically check a little box for you that says "allow us to ruin your inbox?" How helpful of them. And, I'm not even convinced that checkbox does anything.
It's not insurmountable. Spam filters have been around for decades. They're pretty good. If I didn't expect the email, I train my spam filter that it's a bad email. There are a few that get through, maybe 1-5 a week, which require flagging.
The checkboxes seem to be a placebo. Sometimes there isn't one. Sometimes it doesn't do anything. Sometimes they say "updates on your order", which apparently also means future products you might want to buy a week after you receive your order. (Marketers' English seems like a foreign language to me).