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Launch HN: Chert (YC P26) – Twilio for iMessage

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Re: Launch HN: Chert (YC P26) – Twilio for iMessage

#191

"Chert" is a poor branding for all Russian [and Ukrainian customers - it means "crap" or "damn".

We named it Chert because we were doing archaeology research.

That's fine, but never forget why Mitsubishi had to rebrand its famous Pajero SUV as the Montero in America and in Spanish-speaking countries [0]!

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Pajero

Re: Launch HN: Chert (YC P26) – Twilio for iMessage

#193

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How is blue more human than green?

For me personally, if I saw an Agent sending me iMessages I would feel it's for the sole reason of deception. Every other company uses SMS and they feels right to me.

Tap and hold -> Delete -> Delete and Report Spam.

Re: Launch HN: Chert (YC P26) – Twilio for iMessage

#194
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I don't know why you're so insistent on trying to build a business on quicksand. Please just stop before you waste any more time or money on this.

They just got 500k from YC, I doubt they'd pivot until they get big enough for Apple to notice, by which point they might cash out.

YC will throw money at anyone I guess

Re: Launch HN: Chert (YC P26) – Twilio for iMessage

#196

I think this is bad and antisocial and you should shut it down. I like imessage because businesses cannot easily use it. The people who are most willing to pay for what you provide will do so because they can thereby annoy me in interfaces where other spammers cannot. More practically beeper got blocked for this reason despite not even targeting commercial messaging.

If this project causes people to stop trusting Apple platforms so much, that seems like a win/win?

Re: Launch HN: Chert (YC P26) – Twilio for iMessage

#200
Your business model is similar to setting up a lemonade stand on the railroad tracks. Nothing wrong with a lemonade stand, but putting it right in the path of oncoming trains seems unwise.

All kidding aside, your business model relies on continuously violating Apple's terms of use with impunity. Your technical foundation is built on a service that was designed to prevent what you are doing, and you will be locked into a never ending cat and mouse game with them as they try to block you, and you create new IDs to recover. Even if your use cases aren't scams, you are using the same methods as scammers. Operators of messaging channels are under pressure from EU and other government regulators to stop unsolicited messages. The path you are relying on is only going to get more difficult.

Maybe reconsider your path? If you want to be a provider of communication channel access to businesses, consider becoming a legitimate WhatsApp BSP, Apple Messages for Business MSP, etc. Work with the channel operators, not against them. That would be a much more stable foundation for your business.

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