Live data from Hacker News

Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

techcrunch.com

191–200 of 614 posts

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

#191

While there are good alternatives like DuckDuckGo, Mojeek, or Ecosia, there are also ad-free alternatives, where you're not the product, like Kagi [1] or Uruky [2] (I co-founded Uruky, which is also currently and for the foreseeable future "No-AI")! [1]: https://kagi.com [2]: https://uruky.com

Just this morning I was helplessly looking at r/ecosia for a way to get rid of the new AI tab they've added (there's no way). Signed up for Uruky, let's see how it fares.

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

#192
I appear to be one of the rare few that doesn’t have any trouble - or even see much difference - in the ‘new’ google (non-) search.

Maybe this is a frog in boiling water situation but… it’s just the same search as it’s always been, there’s just now a chunk of Gemini up top, that you take with a grain of salt, same way you’d take the promoted results. If you don’t like it, Adblock it.

When I ask myself honestly, has google search gotten worse over the past 25+ years? My answer is… ehhhhhh… not really?

Other people have always claimed google was ‘getting worse’ and I just don’t see why it should be any more true now than it was then. Isn’t this just the latest round of whinging?

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

#193
post #18

I must be the only person in this website who is happy with the AI Overview feature. It messes up sometimes (very rarely) but so do websites. And between ads, cookie popups, newsletter popups, notification permission popups, websites with a high Time to First Byte, and all the useless filler around the content, websites are a nightmare to browse. I would say that for almost all of my searches the AI Overview feature…

> It messes up sometimes (very rarely)

I don't believe this for a second. It has constantly the worst output of any serious AI I've seen, by far. It's laughably wrong sometimes, usually just wrong. It can usually cope with mundane keyword searches where it's still better to just read the wiki blurb, because even those can be mangled.

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

#194
post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The small thing that annoys me is that I am 100% sure somebody at Apple has a directive: never allow Kagi search integration. I am truly baffled (and annoyed) about this fact.

I know right. It’s simple. Google pays them over a billion dollars and Kagi doesn’t.

I get annoyed at Whatsapp and see it as a case for antitrust but apparently Google is just as guilty of this

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

#196
It annoys me to no end that Safari only gives you a limited set of search engines to pick from. Changing it to anything else requires a cumbersome trick of catching a search URL and redirecting to something else, which not only stops you from using that particular search engine, it makes every search slower you’re sending your query to two entities instead of one.

Seeing as Apple has reportedly partnered with Google to power their LLM offering, I don’t expect that to change soon. I hope I am wrong.

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

#197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience, DDG brings up relevant results, maybe a bit more so than Google does. But often I'm searching for a phrase inside quotation marks and DDG hasn't crawled enough sites and gives me 0 or 1 result while Google gives me 5-10 results. Sometimes Google completely disregards the quotation marks, though.

> But often I'm searching for a phrase inside quotation marks and DDG hasn't crawled enough sites Microsoft Bing bungles quotation marks so hard (???). DDG catches the fallout. > Sometimes Google completely disregards the quotation marks, though Years ago I remember Google asking the person lodging a similar complaint for an example of a query because they found there was always an explanation. Noticed this no longer…

> Microsoft Bing bungles quotation marks so hard (???).

DDG was never good at quotation marks so I forgot to mention it also sucks at these.

> Have you noticed, not if you misspell a proper noun?

I haven't but I'd really prefer 2 options:

1) I may mispel thinks quote freqwently but gimme any sorta relevent result

2) I know what I am searching for. Maybe add a "Did you mean X?" link but still show me the results containing the misspellings. If I search for "motorolla" or "mottorolla" (misspellings for "Motorola") in quotes, DDG gives me 1 incomplete page for that misspelling. Google (StartPage) gives me mostly misspellings but with "Motorola" included in some results. Without the quotes both engines treat me as a moron who can't type. If I search for

"mottorolla" phone 2026

DDG still shows me "mottorolla", not "motorola" while Google has decided I am indeed someone who can barely type even though I've put in quotes.

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

#198
post #18

I must be the only person in this website who is happy with the AI Overview feature. It messes up sometimes (very rarely) but so do websites. And between ads, cookie popups, newsletter popups, notification permission popups, websites with a high Time to First Byte, and all the useless filler around the content, websites are a nightmare to browse. I would say that for almost all of my searches the AI Overview feature…

[flagged]

Then take it from my account that is years old, as I also hold the same opinion that the AI overview is very useful to me as like the parent it usually contains exactly the information I need.

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

#199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know right. It’s simple. Google pays them over a billion dollars and Kagi doesn’t.

However, Apple does allow DDG, Ecosia, and Bing. They just don’t allow Brave or Kagi.

Easily fixed by installing Brave Browser.
Post reply on HN