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Microsoft open-sources “the earliest DOS source code discovered to date”

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Re: Microsoft open-sources “the earliest DOS source code discovered to date”

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I'm wondering whether ReactOS can exploit Claude et. al. to their fullest and "recreate" Windows 2000/95. I may donate some tokens for that cause.

I've used Claude to fix/reconstruct & build leaked Win2k3 on Linux with original toolchain via Wine. This approach included full gdi sources reconstruction. I just don't know what to do with this, it's kinda difficult to "wash" on this scale

Run it as your daily driver and trust your data to it. /s

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I threw out all my punch cards. Wish I'd kept at least a listing!

I find punch cards being used in old engineering books I buy from the 60s. Maybe write them again?

Punch* 'em again

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What's interesting is that Microsoft BASIC itself was derived from BASIC-PLUS which itself was derived from Dartmouth BASIC (which evolved into a structured programming language called SBASIC (Structured BASIC). But the popularity of Microsoft BASIC, actually halted the standardisation of SBASIC as an ANSI standard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_BASIC The Altair BASIC interpreter was developed by Microsoft…

Ah, the good ol’ “Embrace, Extend, … Extinguish”

lmao

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I think you overstate the power of money. Of course it helps. But it’s far from everything. Just look at the number of rich kid fuckups or CEOs with poor backgrounds. It’s just one component that smooths risk and occasionally provides a starter network, but it’s not everything.

>CEOs with poor backgrounds. What's the percentage here?

roughly 50% i guess

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In the case of Microsoft, I'm not seeing it. Being born into a 1% household and understanding the asymmetric upside that having the money and the time to speculate is far more significant than the civil and criminal legal violations on the way. The most common way to go from one-percenter rich to .001% rich is to already have enough wealthy people generating capital in your personal network that you can raise capital…

We need a better system. We tried communism and that was shit, so this is the least bad system we have.

It would be difficult for us as humans to get a better system. we are too chaotic

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At this stage, was Microsoft already a well-established company if they had money and resources to contract and then license the 86-DOS?

Yes, Microsoft had established themselves as supplier of BASIC interpreters to most of the US microcomputer manufacturers. There initial contact with IBM was to provide a version of Microsoft BASIC for the new computer.

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I wonder how long it'll be before they release the source for the earliest Windows versions. The fact that they still have the source for this very old DOS at least gives hope that they also do for old Windows.

The day they would make Windows 2000 codebase open source (or source available) would be the day I could die happy (although I'd probably be long dead anyways by the time there's a glimmerof chance of it happening). What a beautiful, smooth-running operating system it was.

I suspect Windows 2000 (and NT based stuff in general) is too near to modern Windows to be (officially) released. DOS is long dead, but modern Windows still uses the NT kernel and Win32 and so on, and they probably don't want to give an official peek behind the curtain, even if it's an over a quarter century old version.

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That sounds like a terrifying legal minefield that they would not want to tread

Is it not safe to assume Window source code is not present in the LLM training data?

There are repos on github. Which, technically, means you can download Windows source from Microsoft. Just not legally.

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I cannot describe to you how jealous I am of the fact that back then writing a few thousand lines of assembly was what it took to launch a successful software company.

I find younger zoomers say this a lot and even to me in my 30s "oh you had it so easy!" because they think the knowledge today, we would have had back then. This is false.

Loser today, you would have been a loser back then too.

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