>Nobody writes essays in Slack. It's only possible because of AI copy-paste.
I could easily write essays in Slack if I wanted to. The reason why I don't has nothing to do with whether I'm capable of it or not.
Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations
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Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations
#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don't really get why some people seem to think that it's somehow better to have their bullet point prompt as a huge text Probably people who have never wanted to put the required thinking effort in a simple, structured response to a question, and now think that "a lot of words" magically solves that skill issue.
I would have written a shorter letter, but I didn't have the time...
While Blaise Pascal, he of triangle and foundations of evil, may have indeed written something like that--though probably in 1600s French--it is almost certain that he did have the time. he just so not want to use it to edit his letter to be shorter.
The question before is now is now is whether the letter contains any quotable quotes that have survived 400 years other than his critique of style.
Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations
#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
Math professor here. When I go to research lectures, I sometimes hear that in response to audience questions, although not especially consistently. Some speakers do this more than others, I don't think anyone does it all the time.
It was so long ago that the specifics have faded, but I remember I was coached to use a variety of positive responses. "That's a great question," yes, but also things like "I'm glad you brought that up," and "I was hoping someone would ask about that!" It wasn't my cup of tea, too artificial, but the advice was contemplated. The next question (which is a great one, from what I understand) is: Why do LLMs use these ph…
> Why do LLMs use these phrases so much if humans rarely use them in written form?
As far as I understand, it's due to RLHF. The reviewers the AI companies use don't necessarily know what kind of question is a good one, so when the LLM answers "That's a good question!", they tend to rate the answer higher because they like being flattered. Proxy models that are themselves trained on RLHF inherit this pattern. Similar effects contribute to sycophancy.[1]
Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations
#194AI was used in writing that article. Know how I can tell? "You asked a simple question. They lobbed a document." " It's a weapon disguised as helpfulness" hello GPT "Use AI to make things clearer, not longer. Let it sharpen your thinking, not replace it." holy slop goddamn
Isn't it ironic? don't you think?
Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations
#195I view this use of AI as a type of denial of service attack. Alice sends Bob a wall of text (low effort) and Bob must parse it (high effort, yet probably no value received for the effort).
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#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem seems to be with the sarcasm detectors.
The common denominator seems to be your phrasing, not everybody else’s “sarcasm detectors.” And unfortunately a lot of people write comments like your joke but actually mean it.
Ad populum. What’s the common denominator on a nerd forum w.r.t interpreting tone cues?
No, not even the mock URL was enough.
Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations
#197When I'm encountering some WoT like that, I'd like to have a button like "view source", but for "view prompt". Most ai generated messages or docs are unnecessarily verbose and just reading the prompt would suffice. I don't really get why some people seem to think that it's somehow better to have their bullet point prompt as a huge text. It just wastes my time. And probably only makes it look like it took more effort…
> I don't really get why some people seem to think that it's somehow better to have their bullet point prompt as a huge text. Simple: It looks like you did more work. Before everyone had ChatGPT, a long document meant that someone sat at their computer and invested more effort than someone rattling off a list of partially formed bullet points. In the process of writing the doc they usually refined the idea. Now anyon…
That's only going to work until people start absorb the fact that you can now generate unlimited amounts of grammatical text for free. Shouldn't be long now.
Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations
#198Annoys me when somebody thinks helping is sharing an LLM dump
I get that the solution is in there but it's like you didn't really help me if I have to go through and read something myself. Just tell me your conclusion if I'm asking you the human. Context is a 7 page word doc output or pdf.
Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations
#199> Nobody writes essays in Slack I 100% write long texts in Slack. I always try to provide as much context as possible when reaching out to someone with a question or request.
Please learn to love bullet points for the sake of the reader.
Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations
#200Baudrillard shaming McLuhan on Slack. :chef-kiss: