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AI is a technology not a product

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Re: AI is a technology not a product

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"Nuclear bombs are neutral"

Nuclear bombs yes, but what about nuclear physics?

If you don't understand that in a capitalistic society like ours, the tech and the power dynamics of the society in which they interact are indissociable, you don't understand how our world works

Re: AI is a technology not a product

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AI harbours evil, because unskilled people tend to trust it blindly. People have already been evicted, arrested and harassed by police simply because they choose to trust technology that flags or "recognizes" them, with no proof that they can trust it. This happens automatically. Thus, AI should be treated as potentially malicious, especially when it is sold as neutral.

do computers harbor evil? the thing AI runs on? the thing that has kind of facilitated all the bad things you mentioned with normal boring algorithms? does electricity harbor evil?

You pretend that you don't understand the point. Just like Nazi collaborators "pretending they just follow orders" wouldn't see the "bad thing in just making trains go to their destination".

Re: AI is a technology not a product

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I totally agree - the phone as a form factor is not going away. People are always going to want to have a mobile communicator/computer, and want one with a screen and all-day battery life. The phone is not going to be replaced by smart glasses or some other wearable or screen-less pocket device. It may well be that the user interface of your "phone", and how you use it, changes over time as we progress toward AGI, bu…

>want to have a mobile communicator/computer, and want one with a screen and all-day battery life. Well before the iPhone flew off the shelf, using the the previously established smartphones I never had to settle for less than a week of battery life. Plus anybody could just slap in another spare battery whenever they wanted to, whether they were off the grid for an extended period or not. Never thought it was going t…

Perhaps, but it still amazes me that something like an iPhone with a GHz processor blasting pixels to the screen all day, can run on a wafer thin battery (Mr. Creosote reference for the cognoscenti) for a full day.

Given that humans sleep at night, recharging the phone at night is a reasonable price to pay for the benefit of a smartphone vs flip phone, but a device that needed charging during the day as well (e.g. due to a form factor with a tiny battery) would almost certainly be a product killer.

Re: AI is a technology not a product

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If you don't know what exactly the user needs, the AI feature is the pitch itself. "Powered by AI" is something to say when you do not know how to sell the outcome. It's also something to develop when you have not set up the feedback loop to know which outcomes to optimize for.

If the signal is clear – if you have observed the same person facing the same problem in the same workflow – then the AI feature deserves its place in the product by automating one step that they hate. The outcome does not necessarily need to be AI-powered. The user simply stops facing that problem anymore.

The Gruber's logic works on the level of the whole product. But there is also a diagnostic implication here – the louder the product sells its AI capabilities, the less the team understands what exactly the product does.

Re: AI is a technology not a product

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Agreed. The ideal implementation of AI for Apple is probably to finally make Siri work. This isn’t necessary fancy, just let me set some calendar events without knowing the magic words or tell it to open Overcast and play the new Gastropod episode. Better yet, for power users, let me set up reusable shortcuts using natural language. The most important part of this is it doesn’t necessarily feel like AI. The user does…

> ideal implementation of AI for Apple is probably to finally make Siri work Wouldn't the simplest solution be to auction off Siri's back end the way Apple does Safari's search bar in iOS?

Apple has already announced that they’ll be using Google Gemini.

https://blog.google/company-news/inside-google/company-annou...

Re: AI is a technology not a product

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Agreed. The ideal implementation of AI for Apple is probably to finally make Siri work. This isn’t necessary fancy, just let me set some calendar events without knowing the magic words or tell it to open Overcast and play the new Gastropod episode. Better yet, for power users, let me set up reusable shortcuts using natural language. The most important part of this is it doesn’t necessarily feel like AI. The user does…

If they could get "Hey Siri, play 'Song Title' by 'Band Name'" to open the Music app and play the song I ask for, that's the extent that I give a damn about AI being introduced to iOS.

Re: AI is a technology not a product

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Steve already gave away the secret [1] (must watch) a long time ago: "You have to work backwards from the customer experience." AI was never going to be on Apple's roadmap in a significant way because it's in their DNA to differentiate technology from products. [1] https://youtu.be/oeqPrUmVz-o?si=ndUU1H5D3pNifWss

I love this video. It's classic Steve Jobs in a real meta way. While I agree with the thesis, the response is total reality distortion field. He says "you have to start with the customer experience" rather than the technology. Then he name drops 4-5 technologies that were speculative endeavors and says when Apple put them all together to make the laser printer: "we can sell this".

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Re: AI is a technology not a product

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The dark patterns and generally options not presented in the app are exactly where I would expect a competent assistant to shine. Are local taxi services cheaper and known to be more reliable? Am I missing an obvious public transit option? Is Uber pulling something creative with dynamic pricing again?

How do you think that AI Assistants would be not subject to Dark Patterns when they are literally Pattern Matching machines? Trained on General Human output and behavior.

They can consider hundreds of pages of text (including terms and conditions, public sentiment, local laws etc.) in a matter of seconds in a way that I, tired after an international flight and just wanting to get a ride to my hotel, usually can't.
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