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Leaving GitHub for Forgejo

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Re: Leaving GitHub for Forgejo

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Tangled is working on something like that. I believe they are federating on the @protocol. https://tangled.org/

I am very active on bsky and I also use some other ATProto applications like tangled. I think this is the first time I have seen anyone refer to ATProto with an '@'

It's less used but the @ is the atproto logo. I default to saying aye-tee instead of at though. It just sounds better.

Re: Leaving GitHub for Forgejo

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I'm kind of baffled why everybody is suddenly hating on github? I use it just fine. I'm actually impressed how well codex is able to interact with it. I virtually do not need to fret about git commands or managing github to respond to issues anymore. I don't see an alternative and its a bit of a stretch to expect people to follow you unless you are famous or have that audience reach already which many of us do not.

Frustration from the outages, anti-AI sentiment, and the anti-hosted-software sentiment are converging.

On the positive side, HN has gone through multiple periods of enthusiasm for new code forges. There was even excitement for GitHub at one point. :) It’s good because all the forges generally add each other’s features if one takes off.

Re: Leaving GitHub for Forgejo

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Can somebody recommend some good github alternatives that are available as a service, without having to self host it? I'm already self hosting my own gitea, but want a SaaS fallback to github

Re: Leaving GitHub for Forgejo

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Everyone seems to be leaving GitHub, and forgetting the entire spirit of what git is in my eyes. Git was always meant to be decentralized, the problem here is that all the tooling around git was centralized to GitHub because it was a cleaner experience, they scaled nicely, and were properly maintained. I would prefer to still see mirrors on GitHub that are auto-synched because I've seen projects for years either self…

Is the tooling really centralized around Github? I use TortoiseGit, and that doesn't seem to care which service you are using. Although it does seem to have special authentication features specifically made to help you log in to Github.

Re: Leaving GitHub for Forgejo

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Everyone seems to be leaving GitHub, and forgetting the entire spirit of what git is in my eyes. Git was always meant to be decentralized, the problem here is that all the tooling around git was centralized to GitHub because it was a cleaner experience, they scaled nicely, and were properly maintained. I would prefer to still see mirrors on GitHub that are auto-synched because I've seen projects for years either self…

A lot of the complains in the blog post would still be there, though, even if GitHub was just a mirror (the AI training stuff, the US jurisdiction concerns).

Re: Leaving GitHub for Forgejo

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Everyone seems to be leaving GitHub, and forgetting the entire spirit of what git is in my eyes. Git was always meant to be decentralized, the problem here is that all the tooling around git was centralized to GitHub because it was a cleaner experience, they scaled nicely, and were properly maintained. I would prefer to still see mirrors on GitHub that are auto-synched because I've seen projects for years either self…

GitHub centralizes 2 things: Authentication, as well as Repository Hosting. Does the code really need to be hosted in a central location like this? (Clearly not, which is why people are leaving GitHub in the first place) But the one part GitHub provides that's genuinely valuable is the social aspect, and when you get a PR from a user named torvalds you can trust that this is in fact Linus. This isn't the case with mo…

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Re: Leaving GitHub for Forgejo

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Forgejo has both these things, I'd even argue Forgejo has a better runner than GitHub actions as it's less resource heavy and easier to debug when issues arise (only ran into one, and it was self inflicted).

I have no trouble believing it is better :), but it is not as easy to mirror a Github issues, or CI configuration, to Forgejo or back as it is to handle the git side. I think Radicle is interesting. It doesn't solve the CI bit, at least not yet, but I suppose it's possible to hook up some local runner for it. There's also a bug tracker which I believe was called bug , but I can't find it ;), that tries to bridge diff…

Radicle CI does exist but it is admittedly fairly early on in development

Re: Leaving GitHub for Forgejo

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I completely share your sentiment about feeling irked about open source code being used to train commercial AI models. However, I think the battle is already lost - the nature of copyright and open source code philosophy (currently) means that there isn't any real way of preventing your code being used to train AI. Look at the legal precedents being set in courts where many of the BigTechs have actually pirated copyr…

> However, I think the battle is already lost - the nature of copyright and open source code philosophy (currently) means that there isn't any real way of preventing your code being used to train AI. Laws should make it a double-edged sword, make distillation explicitly legal. Not much else they can do.

> Laws should make it a double-edged sword, make distillation explicitly legal.

Knowledge-distillation is already legal. Current case law says none of outputs of any model are protected by copyright, so one could use model outputs for whatever they want - including distillation. That is why AI companies resort to ToS clauses to block distillation and/or training competing models.

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