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I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by branko_d »

AllanSavageDev wrote: post #162
cryo32 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seeing and hearing the same. When our giant private equity owners are even pushing us down the on-prem route. I’m hearing it from “normal” people too which is actually quite weird. To the point of going back to paper for some stuff.

I spoke with some high level folks at a very profitable private company recently and inquired as to why they had DBAs on staff for what amounts to a pretty simple OLTP type system. Id naively assumed that someone of that scale would be using a cloud provider (RDS for AWS etc) thus negating the need for someone who really knows DB internals and upgrades and OS level stuff. The answer was that they simply didn't trust…

Sounds like HPE GreenLake.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by MoaMoli »

TrackerFF wrote: post #49

For the past days I've been participating(albeit over Teams) in a conference relevant to my industry (intel), basically startups and established companies showcasing their products to a closed audience of EU gov. officials. One thing I noticed right away, is that all companies were asked "Can we fully host this from within EU or our country" from the various people in audience. Every single one. Many of the startups…

i mean it makes so much sense, cause of the political instability. I recently was at a reception (because of the europe day) and there I talked to some officials that told me that even they don't really know how to to tackle the problems of nowadays. Basically every european state is trying to move its IT infrastructure from the US to Europe and i read somewhere in the news that Aldi is supposed to provide infrastructure to compete with AWS...

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by iso1631 »

Winblows11 wrote: post #102
vipshek wrote: post #98

> This website has been temporarily rate limited Feels a bit ironic... though this website is hosted on Cloudflare Workers so using an American company anyway?

Cloudflare = NSA creation to get around HTTPS

I think it's more likely they just use/abuse it than specifically created it, same as things like google spyware. The NSA's desires and the ad industry are aligned, so its a match made in heaven.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by onemoresoop »

wolvoleo wrote: post #181
drstewart wrote: post #165

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There can always be another Orban. Unless Europeans can never trust Hungary again and move away from them at lightspeed, I'm smelling hypocrisy.

I didn't say never. I just said, if America gets a sane administration again, things won't be automatically back to normal. There will be caution for years. Also, any new administration will spend years undoing all the destruction that has been done until things can be considered normal again. And yes I don't trust Hungary.

Trust needs to be earned again, it’s a long process but ultimately it can be gained back

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by rob74 »

First time I heard about Mistral, so I went to the site. I first thought their logo is a pixel-art letter M. Then I read that their chatbot/agent is called "Le Chat"... wait a minute, that means something different in French? And then I noticed that the logo can also be seen as a cat head (from the whiskers up). Then I scrolled to the end of the page and saw my suspicion confirmed: https://cms.mistral.ai/assets/920e56ee-25c5-439d-bd31-fbdf5c... . Kudos to the designer(s)!

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by Roark66 »

radicalbyte wrote: post #83
aurareturn wrote: post #25

Google Analytics --> Matomo Matomo charges 22 euros for 50k hits/month.[0] Basically, it's unusable for anything other than a hobby site - especially with the number of crawlers nowadays. If you self host for free, you're missing basically all of the good parts of web analytics such as funnel analysis as they lock all of those features being paid subs. [0] https://matomo.org/pricing/

Analytics should be self hosted. For any serious business there should never be a reason to use a SaaS product. For SME (including startups) obviously yes. But if you have devops teams then deploy on your own hardware.

Tell that to my Fortune 200 client that I've spent last 3 years migrating dozens of SaaS apps from AWS to GKE for.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by philipwhiuk »

james_pm wrote: post #107
data-ottawa wrote: post #53

Just a nitpick: 1Password is Canadian (still not European, but not us based, if that’s the issue). I do understand the choice to move all into proton though. Off topic: that’s a beautiful website

1Password also lets you pick where your data lives - US, Canada or EU. https://support.1password.com/regions/

So do lots of providers. But the US law says if an American has access they can snoop as much as they like wherever the data physically is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by finegrainlabs »

One of my friends made fremforge.com (an EU-sovereign CI/CD with Git included). It's currently in closed beta but goes live next week (tm). It is built upon Forgejo and EU-based services using T-Cloud as the underlying hyperscaler. Have a look! I don't make any money from it, by the way. And yes, it will cost a little bit, but rest assured: because you are paying for it, you will not be the product.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by libertine »

andruby wrote: post #179
throwaway2037 wrote: post #134

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And that has never happened to any European company, right? (I'm looking at you ASML.) By your logic, does that mean that most European nations are "no longer the safety many assumed before"?

The example you mention is a tricky one, ASML is about as European as it is American. It is heavily subject to US export controls because its machines include US components, US software and US IP. They operate multiple R&D centers and factories in the US and employ a lot of US employees (~20%)

Out of curiosity, couldn't ASML replace the all of those elements with either their own development or new suppliers?

This is taking into account the worst case scenario, which isn't that unlikely to happen.

I mean, for sure there are these plans in motion already, but how hard would it be?

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