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Re: Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy

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Post by raxxorraxor »

za3faran wrote: post #189
raxxorraxor wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "army of god" isn't in any way a victim, they are perpetrators of the highest order. The political goals of Hezbollah are only in-transparent to those that are blinded in their hatred of Israel for one reason or another.

Hezb does not mean army, it means party or group. Secondly, they only came to be after the invasion. It's normal to hate invaders who have committed countless crimes against humanity, not "for one reason or another": https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed/

Not true. It is a militant fundamentalist group. In contrast to Israel that often tries to avoid civilian targets, for Hezbollah terror is the goal.

There is no excuse for that, they are what they themselves claim to be and no, they don't fight for anyone's freedom and are an extension of Iranian foreign policy.

Israelis aren't invaders for that matter. Most were expelled from surrounding countries, Syria and Lebanon included. They have no claim or reason, just terror. Their security interest in Syria and Lebanon are fully justified.

Re: Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy

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Post by za3faran »

raxxorraxor wrote: post #191
za3faran wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hezb does not mean army, it means party or group. Secondly, they only came to be after the invasion. It's normal to hate invaders who have committed countless crimes against humanity, not "for one reason or another": https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed/

Not true. It is a militant fundamentalist group. In contrast to Israel that often tries to avoid civilian targets, for Hezbollah terror is the goal. There is no excuse for that, they are what they themselves claim to be and no, they don't fight for anyone's freedom and are an extension of Iranian foreign policy. Israelis aren't invaders for that matter. Most were expelled from surrounding countries, Syria and Lebanon…

They are a resistance group that was formed after the occupation of Palestine. We've seen time and time again the israelis deliberately target and snipe civilians, it's very well documented and has been happening since the beginning of the invasion. Even the NYT recently published an article about how the israelies use dogs to rape Palestinians.

The invader terror regime is exposed, no justification for their crimes or interest in so called (greater israel): https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed

Re: Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy

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Post by dlubarov »

za3faran wrote: post #192
raxxorraxor wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not true. It is a militant fundamentalist group. In contrast to Israel that often tries to avoid civilian targets, for Hezbollah terror is the goal. There is no excuse for that, they are what they themselves claim to be and no, they don't fight for anyone's freedom and are an extension of Iranian foreign policy. Israelis aren't invaders for that matter. Most were expelled from surrounding countries, Syria and Lebanon…

They are a resistance group that was formed after the occupation of Palestine. We've seen time and time again the israelis deliberately target and snipe civilians, it's very well documented and has been happening since the beginning of the invasion. Even the NYT recently published an article about how the israelies use dogs to rape Palestinians. The invader terror regime is exposed, no justification for their crimes…

> Even the NYT recently published an article about how the israelies use dogs to rape Palestinians.

They published allegations from a questionable source with no evidence. I think most people would agree that "Israel trains dogs to rape on command" is rather absurd and implausible on its face.

Re: Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy

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Post by culi »

ch4s3 wrote: post #186
culi wrote: post #182

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Chomsky's had his fair of controversial takes but he never called any victim a liar

Lucky you, since I know you love links, here’s the rat-bag’s own site[1]. > Specifically, refugees questioned by Westerners or Thais have a vested interest in reporting atrocities on the part of Cambodian revolutionaries, an obvious fact that no serious reporter will fail to take into account. There are several other quotes where he implies refugees are lying. And if you’re good at digging through library archives th…

the sentence immediately preceding:

> While these reports must be considered seriously, care and caution are necessary.

Thanks for proving my point.

Re: Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy

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Post by za3faran »

dlubarov wrote: post #193
za3faran wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are a resistance group that was formed after the occupation of Palestine. We've seen time and time again the israelis deliberately target and snipe civilians, it's very well documented and has been happening since the beginning of the invasion. Even the NYT recently published an article about how the israelies use dogs to rape Palestinians. The invader terror regime is exposed, no justification for their crimes…

> Even the NYT recently published an article about how the israelies use dogs to rape Palestinians. They published allegations from a questionable source with no evidence. I think most people would agree that "Israel trains dogs to rape on command" is rather absurd and implausible on its face.

The evidence is there, but some people refuse to accept. The claim is not implausible, unfortunately - it happened in other countries (e.g. Chile). Either way, their history of war crimes and atrocities goes all the way back to the start of the invasion, and continues to this day for everyone to see:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz9drj14e0lo

https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed

Re: Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy

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Post by mhb »

lorecore wrote: post #153
tptacek wrote: post #32

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Wholesale population displacement is explicitly not (by itself) genocide under the convention. Genocide is an intent crime, and the intent has to be the eradication of the targeted ethnic, national, racial, or religious group. Kidnapping all the children in an occupied territory and dispersing them so they can't be returned to their families is genocidal. Mass displacement isn't. The fixation on the term "genocide" h…

> The fixation on the term "genocide" has been a major own-goal for advocates of Palestinians While I, and many others think that Israel is committing genocide, this is not an "own-goal". The only people playing semantics here are Zionists who are staunchly pro-Israel.

What do you mean by "Zionists"?

Re: Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy

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Post by ch4s3 »

culi wrote: post #194
ch4s3 wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lucky you, since I know you love links, here’s the rat-bag’s own site[1]. > Specifically, refugees questioned by Westerners or Thais have a vested interest in reporting atrocities on the part of Cambodian revolutionaries, an obvious fact that no serious reporter will fail to take into account. There are several other quotes where he implies refugees are lying. And if you’re good at digging through library archives th…

the sentence immediately preceding: > While these reports must be considered seriously, care and caution are necessary. Thanks for proving my point.

This is throat clearing. He very specifically says the refugees are telling the Thai and US interviewers what they want to hear (e.g. lying). He says elsewhere in the article that reports of local party leaders executing people displaced from cities are unfounded. He bends over backwards in several places to discount refugee accounts.

> While these reports must be considered seriously, care and caution are necessary.

I'd also point out that when the killing fields were discovered, he refused to acknowledge that the early reports from refugees were correct. So he never took them seriously. Why carry water for this piece of shit? He also denied that Serbs were carrying out massacres in the Balkans. His whole thing has always been covering for the crimes of any anti-Western scumbag.

Re: Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy

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Post by deaux »

dang wrote: post #126
deaux wrote: post #8

Lovely, but in character, to see a .co.il 403-block a broad swath of the world.

I don't know what you're experiencing, of course, but I do know from the (entirely different) context of running HN that such blocks can happen for a lot of different reasons and you can't really assess them correctly without, at least, multiple data points. Not sure if it's helpful to say this or not...

I confirmed that it was a pure geo-based block before writing the comment. It stayed in place even on mobile internet vs. residential, across devices and browsers.

Re: Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy

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Post by dlubarov »

za3faran wrote: post #195
dlubarov wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Even the NYT recently published an article about how the israelies use dogs to rape Palestinians. They published allegations from a questionable source with no evidence. I think most people would agree that "Israel trains dogs to rape on command" is rather absurd and implausible on its face.

The evidence is there, but some people refuse to accept. The claim is not implausible, unfortunately - it happened in other countries (e.g. Chile). Either way, their history of war crimes and atrocities goes all the way back to the start of the invasion, and continues to this day for everyone to see: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz9drj14e0lo https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed

The first link is about a dog attack, but absolutely nothing about dogs being "trained to rape". The second link is nothing specific, just an entire subreddit devoted to anti-Israel propaganda.

So where is this evidence that you say exists?

Re: Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy

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Post by lorecore »

mhb wrote: post #196
lorecore wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The fixation on the term "genocide" has been a major own-goal for advocates of Palestinians While I, and many others think that Israel is committing genocide, this is not an "own-goal". The only people playing semantics here are Zionists who are staunchly pro-Israel.

What do you mean by "Zionists"?

The definition of Zionism is: people who believe Israel has a right to exist.
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