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There's a reason Google is switching to "scan this QR code on your phone with a Google-authorized TPM" kind of CAPTCHAs
I've never seen a CAPTCHA like that. What's it used for? Google Cloud services?
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#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've never seen a CAPTCHA like that. What's it used for? Google Cloud services?
It's a reference to this I think https://www.androidauthority.com/google-recaptcha-play-servi...
Wow, that's bad. Looks like the warnings about TPM and remote attestation being a backdoor to total digital lockdown from the Stallman contingent were right.
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#193I'll remove the particulars to avoid anything partisan, but: I failed to truly appreciate how cooked reddit was with bots until I accidentally clicked Popular and stumbled upon a national subreddit post with a 'chad meme', starring a particular political leader, whose unpopularity is hard to adequately convey to foreigners. It was not just that this post had been so severely upvoted, but the comment section itself ha…
>I failed to truly appreciate how cooked reddit was with bots until I accidentally clicked
For me it was a wholesome response. It seemed genuinely kind/human.
Click on user profile...it's a bot just pumping out posts like that. Looked organic when seen in isolation, but when you see a wall of them you see that it's got to be an LLM (with a good prompt).
That was disheartening...I had kinda accepted that the sht-stirring rage posts might be bots but the kind comments too? Ouch
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a reason Google is switching to "scan this QR code on your phone with a Google-authorized TPM" kind of CAPTCHAs
I've never seen a CAPTCHA like that. What's it used for? Google Cloud services?
It’s only just been announced: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48039362
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#195The importance of good search engines and good discovery engines will grow even more.
Search engines got SEO'd to death decades ago
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I'd be interested in working on a problem like that. I have a strong preference for remaining anonymous or at least making it a reasonably high bar to tying my online identity to my personal identity I would love to be involved in helping to design a sort of "human verified" badge that doesn't necessarily make it possible or at least not easy for everyone to find your real identity I've been thinking about it a bunch…
I agree its a very, very interesting problem. Maybe one of the biggest problems of the coming decade. I suspect it will be a long process: first there will be goverments that force people to use ID, but that will be abused, hacked and considerably restrict freedom of speech, so after that phase people will start to create better ids. The problem is really pretty simple: You need an authoratitive source to say "This p…
*You need an authoratitive source to say "This person is real"*
Does that even accomplish much? It may cut down on mass fake account creation. But, real people can then create authenticated account, and use an LLM to post as an authenticated real person.
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I'm surprised these platforms don't have advanced heuristics to detect API calls and inauthentic traffic. Did you clone the Reddit API from browser traffic and then turn it into a 100% API driven thing? I'd imagine they'd be sniffing browser agents, plugins, cookies, etc. to fingerprint. Using JavaScript scroll position, browsing rate and patterns, etc. Maybe their protections just aren't that sophisticated.
Reddit is known to fingerprint TLS and quickly shadowban accounts that don't have the fingerprints of browsers.
TLS fingerprinting and Cloudflare are easy to bypass. There are lots of libraries that do so.
The application-layer stuff is harder. Each application can develop its own heuristics, and that's difficult to automate in a cross-cutting fashion.
Reddit doesn't do anything about that? That seems stupid.
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#200Re: "The Asymmetry of Bullshit"
I'm gonna speak on behalf of language models' capability of making online communities better. In recent times, the frustrating forum phenomenon of "learned helplessness" is making me too annoyed to participate. Even in a fantastic subreddit as /r/LocalLLaMA, there are people posting replies in the vein of
> user1: please help me understand this acronym the post title speaks of > user2: (explains in detail what it means)
In the "good old days", a low effort, surface level question would result in someone either muting or banning the person to keep the discussion high quality.
There I am, browsing a forum dedicated to LLM enthusiasts, and an unbeliavable number of people are asking LMGTFY/RTFM-level questions they could even find an answer to from a free Google Search AI summary, and people are rewarding them by actually responding to them with effort.
Thanks to models being quite intelligent at answering basics, the ban-hammer should be used more swiftly if people keep polluting forums with low-quality posts. There's no need to feel bad for them not having the time or capabilities to read through years of forum posts to feel qualified to answer.
Maybe even these sloppy posts authors can be outright muted or banned with a heavier hand for the sake of quality.