Interesting setup
do you have any benchmarks on: - token usage over time - failures/retry rates
would be great to see how it behaves in production
DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro
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Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro
#192If you're looking for Claude Code alternatives, I would first suggest looking into pi.dev or opencode for your harness. And then for models, you can choose from OpenCode Go (IMO most cost effect at this moment), OpenRouter, or direct from DeepSeek. Better if you go the Kimi route IMO and just buy a subscription from kimi.com
How does the kimi subscription compare to Codex and Claude Code in terms of how much mileage you get for the pricing? I mean, I see the prices but not sure how usage that buys.
Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro
#193> Claude Code is the best autonomous coding agent. If you look at the terminal-bench@2.0 leaderboard, you'll quickly see it's actually one of the weakest agentic harnesses. Anthropic's own models score lower with Claude Code than with virtually any other harness. So it's quite the opposite. Claude Code is arguably the worst harness to run models with.
Those benches are completely and totally meaningless when it comes down to real world work tasks, and everyone knows it.
Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro
#194Not sure you can replace Claude with DeepSeek V4 that easily and have same results. From what I see while building my own agentic system in Elixir, the problem is in training for your specific harness/contracts. Claude/GPT-style models seem to be trained around very specific contracts used by the harness like tool call formats, planning structure, patching, reading files, recovering from errors, and knowing when to s…
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Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro
#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
I keep re-learning this lesson: I chug along with a lesser model then throw a problem at it that's too complex. Then I try different models until I give up and bring in Opus 4.6 to clean up.
It's not even that much cheaper, GPT 5.5 is about 2x more expensive per task than Deepseek v4 Pro when you adjust for less token usage, according to Artificial Analysis. Doesn't seem worth it to me.
Are we talking pay as you go API or vs plans?
Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro
#196#!/bin/sh export ANTHROPIC_BASE_URL=https://api.deepseek.com/anthropic export ANTHROPIC_AUTH_TOKEN=sk-secret export ANTHROPIC_MODEL=deepseek-v4-flash export CLAUDE_CODE_DISABLE_NONESSENTIAL_TRAFFIC=1 exec claude $@
It seems like any project that makes fun of Claude is bound to reach the top spot on Hacker News. Even if it’s just a project consisting of four lines of code.
You're just mean. I count 6 lines of code!
Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro
#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
There probably isn't a point. Someone didn't understand something, didn't research it, so they 1 shotted their first thought and sent it to the front page of HN and all of their socials. It's the future bruh
And now, because we all upvoted and commented on it, the vibe coded slop of the new user is on the front page now.
Same place same time tomorrow?
Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro
#198Not sure you can replace Claude with DeepSeek V4 that easily and have same results. From what I see while building my own agentic system in Elixir, the problem is in training for your specific harness/contracts. Claude/GPT-style models seem to be trained around very specific contracts used by the harness like tool call formats, planning structure, patching, reading files, recovering from errors, and knowing when to s…
Idk, my recent experience with Claude is that 4.7 barely knows how to use basic bash tools - how to properly check when programs have finished running, even basic stuff like how to run pytest suites and read the failed tests from the output without re-running the suite to specifically look for them. It's shockingly dumb for all of the tooling they've built into Claude Code (the useless Monitoring tool that blocks bash polling/sleeping that actually works, etc.).
I finally get fed up and started using GPT 5.5 the past 4 days and its a breath a fresh air despite feeling much more minimal. With Claude I had to write so many hooks to enforce behaviors it wouldn't remember and it lacked common sense on. GPT 5.5 does a much better job with things like knowing the AWS CDK CLI can hang on long CloudFormation deployments and it should actively check the deployment status using CloudFormation API rather than hanging for 30+ minutes - and it does this all without asking.
Maybe there's better tooling built into Codex too, but at least on the surface level it seems like how smart the model is makes a significant difference because Claude has more tools than I can count and still struggles to use "grep".
Edit: Like just now - I can't tell you how many times I day I see this sequence:
"Sorry, I'll run in parallel"
"Error editing file"
"File must be read first"
Repeat 10x for the 10 subagents Claude spawned and then it gets stuck until you press escape and it says "You rejected the parallel agents. Running directly now"
Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro
#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But how is it any different from keeping them open? If all open issues are actionable items, that makes expected workload a lot easier to handle. If most open issues are actually in "needs triage / needs review" state, you lose the signal from the noise. The issue tracker for a project exists primarily as a tool for maintainers, not for outsiders. Yes, the maintainers could change their workflow to create a new vie…
Somehow going through closed issues just to reopen them sounds like more effort than just using the built in label system which is made for this purpose, but maybe that's just me.
I can either change my daily workflow to accommodate the noisy herd, or I can change the noisy herd to accommodate my daily workflow.
Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro
#200#!/bin/sh export ANTHROPIC_BASE_URL=https://api.deepseek.com/anthropic export ANTHROPIC_AUTH_TOKEN=sk-secret export ANTHROPIC_MODEL=deepseek-v4-flash export CLAUDE_CODE_DISABLE_NONESSENTIAL_TRAFFIC=1 exec claude $@
ANTHROPIC_MODEL=deepseek-v4-pro[1m] ANTHROPIC_SUBAGENT_MODEL=deepseek-v4-flash This is what I’ve been using for non-confidential projects for about a week now (soon after v4 came out). I honestly can’t tell the difference, but I’m not doing anything crazy with it either. Worth noting that I don’t think DeepSeek‘s API lets you opt out of training. Once this is up on other providers though… (OpenRouter is just proxying…
As of now, OpenRouter offers multiple providers for DeepSeek with ZDR (not sure if they respect it but still).