Mozilla's opposition to Chrome's Prompt API

Post by doublerabbit » Thu, Apr 30, 2026, 6:19 PM UTC

pessimizer wrote: post #164

john_strinlai wrote: post #154

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> I don't know why or how anyone would EVER think Google is going to do something good for the web or humanity. i dislike google as much as the next guy, but sometimes it can be good to remember that actual humans work at google. some of them want to improve things for people. some of them even have a conscience. one immediate "good" that comes to mind, from google, is the project zero team.

Maybe it's also helpful to point out that all evil is done by actual humans, and that google will actually fire humans who don't do what google wants them to do.

Post by codedokode » Thu, Apr 30, 2026, 6:30 PM UTC

dabockster wrote: post #162

codedokode wrote: post #134

I am against this. 1) This will be a new source of fingerprinting information and this is difficult to fake to fool fingerprinting scripts, so it can be abused for "device verification". There should be no ability to "verify" a browser, and anyone should be able to emulate any browser. This is the most important point, I thought Google people are smart enough to see it. 2) LLMs use lot of memory and CPU time, for man…

> There should be no ability to "verify" a browser, and anyone should be able to emulate any browser. Hard disagree. The AI industry has absolutely shredded the various anti-scraping and anti-botting social contracts that were in place prior to the covid pandemic. Like it's now common knowledge that robots.txt isn't a hard requirement and can be avoided entirely, for example. They have absolutely turned the open web…

Post by john_strinlai » Thu, Apr 30, 2026, 6:35 PM UTC

doublerabbit wrote: post #192

john_strinlai wrote: post #184

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i thought my point was pretty clear. google can (and has) done good things for the web and humanity. there are people working there that actively try to do things that are a net positive to society. they do a lot of shit, too. and i have no qualms with calling that out. but categorical statements of google being incapable of anything good, at all, ever , are not well thought out positions. only people who have let th…

Double edged sword. They have & they've have not. They've fueling technology for war, yet they've enabled us to communicate further and wider than before. The "don't be evil" & "good things" end up tainted; or thrown to the graveyard. You can't apply those morals to a corporation like Google. Anything that had an positive effect to the internet ended up in the graveyard years ago. Maybe in the early years, yes they e…

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 30, 2026, 6:46 PM UTC

eikenberry wrote: post #196

anthonyrstevens wrote: post #168

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So is it reasonable and helpful to see the same comments over and over again any time Google/Microsoft/OpenAI/Meta is mentioned in a comment - "X is bad, money drives all their decisions, they are anti-user, etc. etc." or should we actually expect to see relevant comments discussing the topic at hand? It's inane and annoying to have to wade through the same, predictable, might-as-well-be-copy-and-paste comments on ev…

This same point should have been made to the grandparent as well... claiming some good people are working inside the system at a bad company is also a tired trope.

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 30, 2026, 6:51 PM UTC

john_strinlai wrote: post #195

doublerabbit wrote: post #192

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Double edged sword. They have & they've have not. They've fueling technology for war, yet they've enabled us to communicate further and wider than before. The "don't be evil" & "good things" end up tainted; or thrown to the graveyard. You can't apply those morals to a corporation like Google. Anything that had an positive effect to the internet ended up in the graveyard years ago. Maybe in the early years, yes they e…

>" Anything that had an positive effect to the internet ended up in the graveyard years ago. " the example in my first comment, project zero, is still active today.