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"People who don't use AI will be left behind"

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Re: "People who don't use AI will be left behind"

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> " ...EXACTLY what machinists were saying... " I'm baffled by the stream of obviously hallucinated facts from AI promoters.

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The name-calling and vitriol of typical internet arguments doesn't belong here.

Re: "People who don't use AI will be left behind"

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The better you are at architecting or even directing a junior developer, the better your output too. Dont let AI make decisions, its supposed to take your decisions and turn those into code. When AI makes decisions, well the unexpected outcome is always on you.

i always found it to be easier to write code myself than to direct a junior developer. the level of teaching involved would always mean the overall velocity of work slowed down. some people say you can throw them the drudge work but i find that if you're doing coding right (e.g. you dont let your code base degenerate into a mess of boilerplate), there is barely any drudge work to do.

You're missing the real goal of directing a Junior, which is you're teaching them to be a team player, Junior devs will surpass your expectations, the rate at which they goof or are about to goof should decrease over time the more you mentor them. If you do it right, you not have a strong ally and coder under your belt, or would you rather someone else teach them their bad habits?

Re: "People who don't use AI will be left behind"

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The name-calling and vitriol of typical internet arguments doesn't belong here.

>The name-calling and vitriol of typical internet arguments doesn't belong here.

But his false accusations towards me belong here? So it's OK for me to be attacked, but not OK for me to respond back in equal fashion?

Also, I didn't call anyone names, "clueless" and "obtuse" are adjectives describing a person's observed behavior, not names, and I was very generic saying "some people" to not target and offend anyone specific since I believe in mutual respect.

Because if the person wanted to argue in good faith, he could have just said "I can't believe this, please post a source and go into detail", but he didn't, he immediately jumped to a personal attack with false accusations, in 100% bad faith. And you think I'm the one blame here, for simply responding in kind? Please.

Re: "People who don't use AI will be left behind"

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The name-calling and vitriol of typical internet arguments doesn't belong here.

>The name-calling and vitriol of typical internet arguments doesn't belong here. But his false accusations towards me belong here? So it's OK for me to be attacked, but not OK for me to respond back in equal fashion? Also, I didn't call anyone names, "clueless" and "obtuse" are adjectives describing a person's observed behavior, not names, and I was very generic saying "some people" to not target and offend anyone sp…

He was being petty, but I wouldn't use the terms "name-calling" or "vitriol".

It's a very bad look, to put it lightly, to throw around the terms 'clueless', 'obtuse', and 'useless', and to tell people they will be replaced. In defense of anything, not just AI.

Edit: Interestingly, the parent was edited to be even more hostile since I commented (usually it's the opposite).

Re: "People who don't use AI will be left behind"

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Thank ghod I'm retiring in six months. I'm very thankful I came of age during the golden age of personal computing. I was able to own my own computer(s) and earn a living writing software on them and for them. Fifty years was a good run, and I consider myself lucky to have participated in it. IMO we've gone full circle: dumb terminals chained to mainframes and the whimsey of someone else's rules, restrictions, and re…

> I've come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technologies: Anything that is in the world when you're born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. Anything that's invented between when you're fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural o…

Kinda funny that you're quoting a real author who would never in a million years have resorted to using slop generators.

"I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself." -Hayao Miyazaki

Re: "People who don't use AI will be left behind"

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I have a fancy car? News to me. I'm just trying to pay my bills and live a sensible and reasonably comfortable life. These days that requires a lot of money.

mind you given the topic of the article I took the jobs in question to mean largely in the software industry, not talking about minimum wage workers here. But as a programmer I am quite baffled when peers my age, often without kids struggle in this kind of way. My essentials are rent, food, metro card, library card. When I hear people who make what I make say that living requires a lot of money that usually includes…

So, are you suggesting that an acceptable lifestyle would be an empty studio apartment with nothing inside of it, no pets, no partner, no meaningful possessions?

Personally, I have pets, a partner, and thoughtfully selected and meaningful possessions. I don't collect crap, and nothing I own or do is particularly extravagant. But I'm not exactly living an ascetic life either. A pretty typical lifestyle, I'd say. And I don't consider any of this a moral failure, if that's what you're getting at. Though admittedly it's not as affordable as living like a monk.

Re: "People who don't use AI will be left behind"

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>The name-calling and vitriol of typical internet arguments doesn't belong here. But his false accusations towards me belong here? So it's OK for me to be attacked, but not OK for me to respond back in equal fashion? Also, I didn't call anyone names, "clueless" and "obtuse" are adjectives describing a person's observed behavior, not names, and I was very generic saying "some people" to not target and offend anyone sp…

He was being petty, but I wouldn't use the terms "name-calling" or "vitriol". It's a very bad look, to put it lightly, to throw around the terms 'clueless', 'obtuse', and 'useless', and to tell people they will be replaced. In defense of anything, not just AI. Edit: Interestingly, the parent was edited to be even more hostile since I commented (usually it's the opposite).

>He was being petty

Making false accusations is more than just "being petty".

>It's a very bad look

HN isn't a beauty pageant and I'm not running for office to value looks over facts. I call things as they are, no BS.

>to throw around the terms 'clueless', 'obtuse', and 'useless'

Then people shouldn't act 'clueless', 'obtuse', and be 'useless' if they wouldn't like to be called out for that. If someone see themselves as matching those descriptions, that then that's on them, nothing I can do about it.

>and to tell people they will be replaced

Well, if people can't do a google/LLM search before attacking people with venom, they ARE useless, and will 100% be replaced, since employers have no use for toxic people who can't use modern tools in the labor force.

And this isn't an accusation or something, this is simply the truth on how the labor market works. That's why there are so many unemployed/NEETs/homeless people. I don't want them to be replaced and unemployed, but they are/will be through their own actions/inactions. Again, nothing I can do about that, this is just how it is, and I'm just calling it out.

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