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U.S. war in Iran has cost $25B so far, says Pentagon official

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Re: U.S. war in Iran has cost $25B so far, says Pentagon official

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For comparison, Iran's annual military budget is somewhere between $7B and $11B [1], representing 2-2.5% of estimated GDP. The US military budget currently exceeds $1T+ and the ask for 2026 is expected to be $1.5T+, representing almost 5% of GDP. And the US simply cannot end this conflict militarily short of the use of nuclear weapons. I don't mean that as hyperbole. I mean it literally. There are long-term consequen…

> It was only a surprise to the president (IMHO) who believed he could do a repeat of a Venezuelan decapitation strike. But Iran unlike Venezuela has suffered under reprehensible and unjustifiable sanctions and military adventurism by the US and its proxies such that the entire Iranian national project is built to resist US aggression, understandably. So that was never going to work.

The New York Times has a good piece on the decision process leading to Trump starting the war here: https://archive.ph/20260408044252/https://www.nytimes.com/20... Israel pitched a joint US-Israel operation with the goals of killing Khamenei, damaging Iran's military, starting a popular uprising, and regime change. Trump's advisors told him that the first two goals were achievable but the last two were farcical. Trump was willing to go to war anyway just to establish these two goals. His advisors brought up the difficulty of securing the Strait of Hormuz, but Trump thought Iran would surrender before that would become an issue.

Iran's biggest mistake was its insufficient response to the US strikes on the Fordow nuclear site last June. They responded to getting their nuclear program set back significantly by shooting a few missiles at a US base in Qatar with hours of advance warning, most or all of which were shut down. They then accepted Trump's ceasefire proposal the next day. I think this put the idea in Trump's head that Iran was a paper tiger that could be attacked at will with little to no consequence. Even before Venezuela, the US and Israel were planning a follow-up war. Netanyahu visited Trump 3 times in 2025 prior to making his final pitch described in the New York Times article in February. If Iran had responded more forcefully and caused the US some actual pain, I don't think Trump would have chosen to go to war.

Re: U.S. war in Iran has cost $25B so far, says Pentagon official

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The only ones that didn’t are France, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg, and Greece. The rest all did. This cohort changed its mind with Libya and Syria not too long after though. > The US famously renamed French fries in protest. The same French who very famously made Israel the nuclear-capable pariah state that it is today.

Oh come on, only Poland and the UK joined in the original invasion. The later post invasion involvement by some NATO members was also minimal, not to mention all the non NATO countries that had no involvement. Why make such absurdly fallacious and easily disproven statements?

Italy, Spain, Denmark, The Netherlands, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Ukraine, Norway, Portugal. Which have I missed?

Even Germany is a dumb one, really. The only reason why they didn't participate is because they legally weren't allowed to. What they did do, however, is deploy huge numbers to various US bases around the world so that the US can have a larger deployment.

The only absurdity here is the idea that the European retconning is believable.

Re: U.S. war in Iran has cost $25B so far, says Pentagon official

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh come on, only Poland and the UK joined in the original invasion. The later post invasion involvement by some NATO members was also minimal, not to mention all the non NATO countries that had no involvement. Why make such absurdly fallacious and easily disproven statements?

Italy, Spain, Denmark, The Netherlands, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Ukraine, Norway, Portugal. Which have I missed? Even Germany is a dumb one, really. The only reason why they didn't participate is because they legally weren't allowed to. What they did do, however, is deploy huge numbers to various US bases around the world so that the US can have a larger deployment. The…

Yes it is I who am doing the retconning not the person claiming that tiny contingents of mostly non combat troops sent to Iraq after Bush declared "mission accomplished" in an effort to help clean up Americas mess and with a UN mandate constitutes involvement in the war by all European countries.
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