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Re: Tell HN: I'm sick of AI everything

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Post by paul7986 »

greenrd wrote: post #171
paul7986 wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"But just need to know how to prompt AI properly to..," - Write a new top 40 song no talent required - Write a business email, a school paper, etc & no talent required - Design a logo, a website, an app, a billboard, etc and no talent required. AI is the best thing to happen to humanity as it mimics & steals humanity for a few pie holes and us the majority does nothing to stop it!

I don't understand your comment. It's poorly-punctuated, and its hard to figure out what your position is. What's a "pie hole" as a metaphor for a person? Is that what you meant?

My tone is a sarcastic depressive one attempting to convey the ridiculousness of the vaccuum we are in. A vaccuum that a few pie holes (nicer word then a-hole) have created and are benefitting greatly from while it causes many to millions lots of stress/anxiety/pain.

Re: Tell HN: I'm sick of AI everything

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Post by SilentM68 »

noio wrote: post #128
SilentM68 wrote: post #33

I get your frustration. I do not dislike AI. It has potential to change and improve the human condition. With that being said, it has its downsides with workforce displacement being at the top of the list, for me at least. Unemployment, however, has been prevalent in the US for many decades, mostly due to political maneuvering of previous politicians. AI has just made things a bit more difficult for the workforce, es…

> To fix this, AI companies should refocus their goals to account for the displacement of human roles as they continue to improve AIs. They should start doing that sooner rather than later. It's a good thing then, that corporations have such a good reputation for never externalizing the costs their products inflict on society & the planet.

Ahh, I agree with you there as long as Communism and authoritarianism is not what you are suggesting.

Perhaps an overhaul of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act of 1996, Corporate Personhood, Limited Liability, Business Judgment Rule, and any other Antitrust Protections, that harm citizens without destroying the fabric of society is in order.

Please note that while the, above, protections are substantial, corporations are still subject to various regulations, lawsuits, and legal challenges. However, they represent a significant legal advantage compared to individuals.

FYI: I personally am poor as mud and use local LLMs and Ollama to do most AI-related endeavors due to the same reasons you mentioned, including the above research so do not misinterpret my comments.

Re: Tell HN: I'm sick of AI everything

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Post by skyberrys »

mech422 wrote: post #112
skyberrys wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was a teenager around the dot-com and to this day I feel an idealized sense of longing for participation in the exciting times of the dot-coms. You guys got to enjoy the blazing innovation of the new internet, so full of endless possibilities. Tough luck on your bubble popping moment though.

The sad part wasn't the bubble bursting... It was watching all the potential being squandered and the internet basically being relegated to click farming and selling people crap they don't need. All the really cool stuff seems to have died with the bubble...

Ah man, you are too right there. Now cool stuff requires wading through trash to find it.

Re: Tell HN: I'm sick of AI everything

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Post by preetigagarwal »

The AI fatigue is real. The problem is most AI products are just wrappers that add a chat interface to existing tools and call it AI. The ones that actually stick are the ones where AI is doing something that was genuinely impossible or impractical before — not just faster or cheaper. That bar is higher than most builders think.

Re: Tell HN: I'm sick of AI everything

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Post by guzfip »

journeyman3538 wrote: post #99
ofjcihen wrote: post #76

For me it’s just become…incredibly boring. There’s something uninspiring about a machine thats supposed to “do the hard things for you” so to speak. I like using my mind and understanding things deeply. Sure you could say that “managing the AI” can be deeply understood in a way but it’s just not exciting.

That’s more of a personal problem isn’t it. You can now work on things that are more valuable. Your old work and interests can be taken up as an art instead: to be enjoyed instead of existing for its function.

> You can now work on things that are more valuable

So can any other idiot. And we only need so many of them.

Re: Tell HN: I'm sick of AI everything

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Post by guzfip »

SilentM68 wrote: post #192
noio wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> To fix this, AI companies should refocus their goals to account for the displacement of human roles as they continue to improve AIs. They should start doing that sooner rather than later. It's a good thing then, that corporations have such a good reputation for never externalizing the costs their products inflict on society & the planet.

Ahh, I agree with you there as long as Communism and authoritarianism is not what you are suggesting. Perhaps an overhaul of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act of 1996, Corporate Personhood, Limited Liability, Business Judgment Rule, and any other Antitrust Protections, that harm citizens without destroying the fabric of society is in order. Please note that while the, above, protections are substantial, c…

> Perhaps an overhaul of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act of 1996, Corporate Personhood, Limited Liability, Business Judgment Rule, and any other Antitrust Protections, that harm citizens without destroying the fabric of society is in order.

I’d say the likelihood of that is about as likely as the Communists dream of revolution.

There are two societies. The one you exist in, and the one that the people crafting this kind of legislation. It’s harmful to your society, but beneficial to theirs.

Re: Tell HN: I'm sick of AI everything

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Post by SilentM68 »

guzfip wrote: post #196
SilentM68 wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ahh, I agree with you there as long as Communism and authoritarianism is not what you are suggesting. Perhaps an overhaul of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act of 1996, Corporate Personhood, Limited Liability, Business Judgment Rule, and any other Antitrust Protections, that harm citizens without destroying the fabric of society is in order. Please note that while the, above, protections are substantial, c…

> Perhaps an overhaul of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act of 1996, Corporate Personhood, Limited Liability, Business Judgment Rule, and any other Antitrust Protections, that harm citizens without destroying the fabric of society is in order. I’d say the likelihood of that is about as likely as the Communists dream of revolution. There are two societies. The one you exist in, and the one that the people c…

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Re: Tell HN: I'm sick of AI everything

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Post by andrei_says_ »

bambax wrote: post #17

One problem is that when people delegate tasks to AI, they don't themselves learn anything from doing the task -- not just in the general sense of personal improvement, but in the very concrete sense of "what is it that was produced". Before AI, when someone showed you a presentation or an Excel sheet, even if it was complete horseshit that they had made up, they knew what was in it: they knew more about it than you,…

The equivalent of a student copying their homework.

Schools are not publishing houses for homework assignments. Struggling with the homework is the process training the student.

Was

Re: Tell HN: I'm sick of AI everything

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Post by jlaternman »

corvus-cornix wrote: post #39

I'm looking at engineering job specs at the moment and it's very wearisome that every company seems to have pivoted from highlighting the unique value they provide to customers to putting AI front and centre in their employer branding. My eyes immediately glaze over at what may have been the result of "Claude, take this HR/marketing/whatever copy and inject some AI". I've adopted the tools because they're useful, but…

I was also around then, and actually it did feel exactly the same now that you say. Sense of sailing towards an unknown destination that seemed very exciting, but was clear we didn't quite get what it was yet and were working out the destination mid-flight.
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