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The abandoned war: Why no one is stopping the genocide in Sudan

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Re: The abandoned war: Why no one is stopping the genocide in Sudan

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I deplore current Israeli policies, but Ukraine isn't disguising its war fighters as civilians like Hamas is, which is an important qualifier to your numbers.

School children aren’t “disguised Hamas”.

They can be. Plenty of 16-olds still in school and also a member of Hamas of Islamic Jihad outside school hours.

Re: The abandoned war: Why no one is stopping the genocide in Sudan

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> Your hyperbole is not a good faith effort to discuss the topic I mean.. I think the same about your continued use of the word "genocide" in this war. Israel is fighting a war with human shields being explicitly used basically 100% of the time. Hamas fires missiles from inside refugee camps, and shooting AKs from behind children. Hamas is committing a war crime almost every time they attack at all. They built a tunn…

Israel has deployed more explosive munitions by tonnage on the Gaza Strip than were deployed in the entirety of world war 2. In an area smaller than Seattle, with four times the density of civilians and a huge proportion of children. They've deployed white phosphorous. There are IDF soldiers on record saying they've shot children waiting in line for aid, because they drifted inches over the "do not step past this lin…

> Israel has deployed more explosive munitions by tonnage on the Gaza Strip than were deployed in the entirety of world war 2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_bombing_of_the_Gaza_St...

https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/56193/what-was-t...

0.7 kilotons vs 3000 kilotons. You're off by 4 orders of magnitude. That's pretty bad, even Hamas doesn't lie that badly.

Re: The abandoned war: Why no one is stopping the genocide in Sudan

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Israel has deployed more explosive munitions by tonnage on the Gaza Strip than were deployed in the entirety of world war 2. In an area smaller than Seattle, with four times the density of civilians and a huge proportion of children. They've deployed white phosphorous. There are IDF soldiers on record saying they've shot children waiting in line for aid, because they drifted inches over the "do not step past this lin…

> Israel has deployed more explosive munitions by tonnage on the Gaza Strip than were deployed in the entirety of world war 2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_bombing_of_the_Gaza_St... https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/56193/what-was-t... 0.7 kilotons vs 3000 kilotons. You're off by 4 orders of magnitude. That's pretty bad, even Hamas doesn't lie that badly.

I was wrong. Let me fix that. (Edit: I cannot edit it now.) I misread that statistic and I was incorrect. That said, 70,000 tonnes is 70 kilotonnes, not 0.7. You are correct, 70 kilotonnes is smaller than 3,000.

70 kilotonnes is roughly twice the tonnage of the nukes dropped on Japan, or roughly equal to the tonnage dropped by Germany on the UK (including during the Blitz and V2 rocket payloads).

Re: The abandoned war: Why no one is stopping the genocide in Sudan

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The charities sign a contract with the third parties unfortunately - eg they have permission from the charity. Here in Europe oxfam for example uses some of these private companies and they get the first year of donations and from the 2nd year it goes to oxfam itself. Apparently the average person cancels donations after 2,5 years so for a zero marketing budget (for oxfam) they make 1.5 year x your donation. When I f…

The world is an awful place, but just think of all the paid advertising companies that are _not_ making donations to charities of any kind.

The company isn't donating anything. They're doing the opposite, taking a significant chunk of people's donations.

Re: The abandoned war: Why no one is stopping the genocide in Sudan

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The problem is that communities are grossly inefficient. Look at what happened when big box stores came to local communities. "We are a community" goes out the window when walmart milk is 30% cheaper than Mom and Pop milk. Why? Because massive centralized operations are inherently more efficient, and they can leverage that efficiency to offer the lowest prices. And people on the whole will always, always, always, sho…

Inefficient, probably, but remember that you are operating within a system where people need to shop for a deal. There are other systems one can consider. And don't think of community as a single local place, but rather multiple interlocking sets of people. I'll give an example. One of my communities is farmers. Farmers get paid ~$7 for a bushel of grain (~50lbs). Those same grains can cost $5/lb at the grocery store…

>everything they needed to farm and live comfortably

We discovered long ago that farmers in Brazil have much much lower standards for "live comfortably", because they don't have first world neighbors swimming in a first world life.

Most people aren't aware that Bernie (once again back at Vermont, heh) was/is (I'm sure he still is, but definitely hides it for obvious reasons) an ardent supporter of tariffs. Knee cap the Brazilian farmers so American farmers can charge more and "live comfortably".

Which is nice, but ultimately is just nationalistic hypocrisy. People are forced to pay more for food so that they can artificially hold up farmers in the US. That might feel good, but on a humanitarian level, it's crippling to Brazilian farmers who are just as human as American ones. Export the economic loss to poorer countries...how first world

Well, ok so we can erase the hypocrisy and flatten the global economic terrain. But then we are all living like the farmers in Brazil, an upgrade for many billions and a massive downgrade for maybe a billion.

Very noble, but good luck getting anyone in the first world to actually vote for that.

Re: The abandoned war: Why no one is stopping the genocide in Sudan

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Inefficient, probably, but remember that you are operating within a system where people need to shop for a deal. There are other systems one can consider. And don't think of community as a single local place, but rather multiple interlocking sets of people. I'll give an example. One of my communities is farmers. Farmers get paid ~$7 for a bushel of grain (~50lbs). Those same grains can cost $5/lb at the grocery store…

>everything they needed to farm and live comfortably We discovered long ago that farmers in Brazil have much much lower standards for "live comfortably", because they don't have first world neighbors swimming in a first world life. Most people aren't aware that Bernie (once again back at Vermont, heh) was/is (I'm sure he still is, but definitely hides it for obvious reasons) an ardent supporter of tariffs. Knee cap t…

Yep. You described a state I'd like - lower quality of life for some, massive increase for nearly everyone else.

But you are also right, the people with power aren't ever going to vote for that.

So I focus on my scale. I'm not here to change the world, I'm not here to run a campaign to change the world. I help a few dozen people, I talk about it openly but don't judge others for disagreeing.

And over time, people sometimes decide to get involved in their communities. I stopped charging rent because I read about someone else stopping charging rent. N-count of 2, but maybe someone will read what I did and stop charging rent and we'll go to n-count 3.

Re: The abandoned war: Why no one is stopping the genocide in Sudan

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There are thousands of videos of Israel murdering children.

You know what happens if an Israeli soldier is caught killing non-combatants? They get prosecuted.

You know what happens to a Hamas fighter that is caught killing non-combatants? They get a promotion.

Re: The abandoned war: Why no one is stopping the genocide in Sudan

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post #192

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> Israel has deployed more explosive munitions by tonnage on the Gaza Strip than were deployed in the entirety of world war 2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_bombing_of_the_Gaza_St... https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/56193/what-was-t... 0.7 kilotons vs 3000 kilotons. You're off by 4 orders of magnitude. That's pretty bad, even Hamas doesn't lie that badly.

I was wrong. Let me fix that. (Edit: I cannot edit it now.) I misread that statistic and I was incorrect. That said, 70,000 tonnes is 70 kilotonnes, not 0.7. You are correct, 70 kilotonnes is smaller than 3,000. 70 kilotonnes is roughly twice the tonnage of the nukes dropped on Japan, or roughly equal to the tonnage dropped by Germany on the UK (including during the Blitz and V2 rocket payloads).

Yea, makes sense doesn't it? Israel is fighting an almost completely subterranean enemy. Comparing tonnage to a war where the enemy was above ground is silly.

Re: The abandoned war: Why no one is stopping the genocide in Sudan

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One factor this article skips over is that UAE and the Abraham Accords makes the US reluctant to rein in their buddies. This might change due to the UAE not being very happy about the US dragging them into a regional war.

You're right, I underweighted that. The Abraham Accords logic sits underneath the whole US posture toward the UAE and I should have named it directly. The piece treats it as part of the "economic interests" frame but that's too abstract. Concretely: the US has tied its Gulf diplomacy, arms sales, and regional security architecture to the normalization framework, and the UAE is the pivot. Calling out UAE arms transfer…

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