Microslop, 'xcuse me, Microsoft is working hard to make github less and less appealing. It's a bit weird how an initially fairly good idea, over time becomes ... worse.
Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans
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Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans
#192Great. I, a small consultancy, have just spent the last month working out a workload that uses Opus 4.6 via VS Code to prep horrible, inconsistent, survey data for upload to a proprietary platform. Worked a treat with some light babysitting.
It's the sort of messy job that agents excel at. Decisions need to be made on free text data, translations done into multiple languages, ambiguity handled.
I now need to recheck it still works with another model, which involves a lot of manual verification; and potentially move to Claude Code and pay more money I can ill afford right now.
I'm not even clear from the post when this comes in, I'm guessing effective immediately.
This really hammers home for me the point that we should not be renting our tools.
My own dumb fault for trusting them, I will make sure to learn from this.
Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans
#193I really dislike these AI middleman plans. The value-add that Microsoft brings to Github Copilot is near zero compared to directly buying from Anthropic or OpenAI, where 99% of the value is being delivered from. I don't understand why anyone would want to deal with Microsoft as a vendor if they don't have to. The short period of discounted usage was always the obvious rug pull.
I exclusively use prepaid OAI tokens when doing copilot work in visual studio. It's really easy to set up a "custom" model. The consistency is hard to beat and I can use the latest model on day one. I also get to see how the magic happens in my provider logs. Every token accounted for.
Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans
#194I really dislike these AI middleman plans. The value-add that Microsoft brings to Github Copilot is near zero compared to directly buying from Anthropic or OpenAI, where 99% of the value is being delivered from. I don't understand why anyone would want to deal with Microsoft as a vendor if they don't have to. The short period of discounted usage was always the obvious rug pull.
because I can swap multiple models at the same time and ask them to rubber duck against each other ? if anything I'd like more models in github
Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans
#195I really dislike these AI middleman plans. The value-add that Microsoft brings to Github Copilot is near zero compared to directly buying from Anthropic or OpenAI, where 99% of the value is being delivered from. I don't understand why anyone would want to deal with Microsoft as a vendor if they don't have to. The short period of discounted usage was always the obvious rug pull.
> The value-add that Microsoft brings to Github Copilot is near zero compared to directly buying from Anthropic or OpenAI
Over here in the EU, we need to store sensitive data in an EU server. Anthropic only offers US-hosted version of their models, while G-cloud and Azure has EU based servers.
Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans
#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah this was me. I just got a message that I hit my limit and now I am looking into what it takes to run Qwen on local hardware.
A suggestion: Don't invest in any new hardware to run an LLM locally until you've tried the model for a while through OpenRouter. The Qwen models are cool, but if you're coming from Opus you will be somewhere between mildly to very disappointed depending on the complexity of your work.
OpenRouter-served models are often more heavily quantized than what you can run locally, or try for yourself on generic cloud-based infrastructure.
Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans
#197I really dislike these AI middleman plans. The value-add that Microsoft brings to Github Copilot is near zero compared to directly buying from Anthropic or OpenAI, where 99% of the value is being delivered from. I don't understand why anyone would want to deal with Microsoft as a vendor if they don't have to. The short period of discounted usage was always the obvious rug pull.
> I don't understand why anyone would want to deal with Microsoft as a vendor if they don't have to. It can bill to our Azure sub and I don't have to go through the internal bureaucracy of purchasing a new product/service from a new vendor.
It's understandable but sad that this will often be the reason.
Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans
#198I really dislike these AI middleman plans. The value-add that Microsoft brings to Github Copilot is near zero compared to directly buying from Anthropic or OpenAI, where 99% of the value is being delivered from. I don't understand why anyone would want to deal with Microsoft as a vendor if they don't have to. The short period of discounted usage was always the obvious rug pull.
> The value-add that Microsoft brings to Github Copilot is near zero
The value add is the GitHub integration. By far the best.
GH has cloud agents that can be kicked off from VS Code; deeply integrated with GH and very easy to set up. You can apply enterprise policies on model access, MCP white lists, model behavior, etc. from GitHub enterprise and layered down to org and repo (multiple layers of controls for enterprises and teams). It aggregates and collects metrics across the org.
It also has tight integration with Codespaces which is pretty damn amazing. `gh codespace code` and it's an entire standalone full-stack that runs our entire app on a unique URL and GH credentials flow through into the Codespace so everything "just works". Basically full preview environments for the full application at a unique URL conveniently integrated into GH. But also a better alternative to git worktrees. This is a pretty killer runtime environment for agents because you can fully preview and work on multiple streams at once in totally isolated environments.
If you are a solo engineer, none of this is relevant and probably doesn't make sense (except Codespaces, which is pretty sweet in any case), but for orgs using the GH stack is a huge, huge value add because Microsoft is going to have a better understanding of enterprise controls.
If you want to understand the value add of Copilot, I think you need to spend a bit of time digging into the enterprise account featureset in GH, try Codespaces, try Copilot cloud agents. Then it clicks.
Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans
#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don't understand why anyone would want to deal with Microsoft as a vendor if they don't have to. It can bill to our Azure sub and I don't have to go through the internal bureaucracy of purchasing a new product/service from a new vendor.
Ah, the AWS Marketplace procurement model, where products mostly exist so that you can line item things through Amazon rather than going through a lengthy procurement process
Not surprised to see this is common. At my company basically everyone and their mother are using Claude Code via Bedrock, despite us having company-wide Windsurf, Copilot and ChatGPT Enterprise accounts
Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans
#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except Copilot doesnt bill you per token like all those companies do, they bill you per prompt, at least Copilot in Visual Studio 2026 which is insane to me, are they just hosting all those models and able to reduce costs of doing so?
No they are taking the massive L. Thats why they paused new sign ups. Just for context to the insanity, they allow recursive subagents to I believe its 5 levels deep. You can make a prompt and tell copilot to dig through a code base, have one sub agent per file, and one Recursive subagent per function, to do some complex codebase wide audit. If you use Opus 4.7 to do this it consumes a grand total of 0.5% of a Pro+ p…
I wonder how many of those requests are "necessary" or end up being more correct/efficient than a single agent linearly go through the tasks.