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Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by gmueckl »

MassiveQuasar wrote: post #165
Avicebron wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've helped an otherwise very successful and capable guy (architect) set up a shortcut on his desktop to shut down his machine. Navigating to the power down option in the menu was too much of a technical hurdle. The gap in needs between the average HNer and the rest of the world is staggering

right clicking start menu and clicking shutdown is too hard? amazing

Yes! Even closing the windows of programs that users no longer need is hard.

It's easy to develop a disconnect with the level that average users operate at when understanding computers deeply is part of the job. I've definitely developed it myself to some extent, but I have occasional moments where my perspective is getting grounded again.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by woeirua »

Xenoamorphous wrote: post #131

Couple of people in my company have vibe coded some chat interface and they’re passing skills and MCPs that give the model access to all our internal data (multiple databases) and tools (Jira, Confluence etc). I wonder if there’s something off the shelf that does this?

Claude Desktop / CoWork already does this.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by zozbot234 »

Glemllksdf wrote: post #144
daviding wrote: post #10

There seems a fair enthusiasm in the UI of these to hide code from coders. Like the prompt interaction is the true source and the actual code is some sort of annoying intermediate runtime inconvenience to cover up. I get that productivity can be improved with a lot of this for non developers, just not sure using 'code' as the term is the right one or not.

The power to the people is not us the developers and coders. We know how to do a lot of things, how to automate etc. A billion people do not know this and probably benefit initially a lot more. When i did some powerpoint presentation, i browsed around and draged images from the browser to the desktop, than i draged them into powerpoint. My collegue looked at me and was bewildered how fast I did all of that.

> The power to the people is not us the developers and coders.

> We know how to do a lot of things, how to automate etc.

You need to know these things if you want to use AI effectively. It's way too dumb otherwise, in fact it's dumb enough to be quite dangerous.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by woeirua »

Just reading the comments here it's amazing how many people seemingly don't know that Claude Desktop and Cowork basically already does all of this. Codex isn't pioneering these features, it's mostly just catching up.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by paganel »

noelsusman wrote: post #122
troupo wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My current expectation is that the Cowork/Codex set of "professional agents" for non-technical users will be one of the most important and fastest growing product categories of all time, so far. They won't. Non-technical users expect a CEO's secretary from TV/movies: you do a vague request, the secretary does everything for you. LLMs cannot give you that by their own nature. > And eventually will the UI/interface b…

Just yesterday my non-technical spouse had to solve a moderately complex scheduling problem at work. She gave the various criteria and constraints to Claude and had a full solution within a few minutes, saving hours of work. It ended up requiring a few hundred lines of Python to implement a scheduling optimization algorithm. She only vaguely knows what Python is, but that didn't matter. She got what she needed. For n…

There's no such big opportunity, as the number of programmers' spouses is quite limited. Again, and as the GP rightly suggested, some of the HN-ers here need to go and touch some normie grass, so to speak.

More to the point, nobody wants to be more efficient for the sake of being efficient, we all want to go to work, do our metaphorical 9 to 5 without consuming too much (intellectual and not only) energy, and then back home. In that regard AI is seen as an existential threat to that "lifestyle" and it will be treated as such by regular workers.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by OsrsNeedsf2P »

evbogue wrote: post #37
OsrsNeedsf2P wrote: post #24

> Computer use is initially available on macOS, Does anyone know of a good option that works on Wayland Linux?

Codex-cli / OpenClaw. If you need a browser use Playwright-mcp. I can't see why I'd want an agent to click around Gnome or Ubuntu desktop but maybe that's just me?

> I can't see why I'd want an agent to click around Gnome or Ubuntu desktop but maybe that's just me?

What if you want to develop desktop apps?

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by vunderba »

Avicebron wrote: post #159
Glemllksdf wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The power to the people is not us the developers and coders. We know how to do a lot of things, how to automate etc. A billion people do not know this and probably benefit initially a lot more. When i did some powerpoint presentation, i browsed around and draged images from the browser to the desktop, than i draged them into powerpoint. My collegue looked at me and was bewildered how fast I did all of that.

I've helped an otherwise very successful and capable guy (architect) set up a shortcut on his desktop to shut down his machine. Navigating to the power down option in the menu was too much of a technical hurdle. The gap in needs between the average HNer and the rest of the world is staggering

This. I’m sure everyone has a similar story of how difficult it was to explain the difference between a program shortcut represented as a visual icon on a desktop versus the actual executable itself to somebody who didn’t grow up in the age of computing. And this was Windows… the purported OS for the masses not the classes.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by aniviacat »

daviding wrote: post #10

There seems a fair enthusiasm in the UI of these to hide code from coders. Like the prompt interaction is the true source and the actual code is some sort of annoying intermediate runtime inconvenience to cover up. I get that productivity can be improved with a lot of this for non developers, just not sure using 'code' as the term is the right one or not.

The fact that the Codex app is still unavailable on Linux makes me think the target audience isn't people who understand code.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by pinkmuffinere »

romanovcode wrote: post #9
wahnfrieden wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was already leaked several days ago and they've been teasing it for weeks. They had already said that it was coming this week specifically.

Obviously they pressed the "publish" button since Opus was released. Do not deny it.

lol I'll deny that your claimed truth is obvious. Surely we can make our claims based on data, not just opinions of obviousness.
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