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Good sleep, good learning, good life (2012)

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Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life (2012)

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Post by johnthedebs »

lamasery wrote: post #146
johnthedebs wrote: post #67

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FWIW, and understanding that individual babies do differ, most babies can sleep through the night (10-12 hours) by 3-4 months old. Check out the books "Twelve Hours' Sleep by Twelve Weeks Old" or "Precious Little Sleep" for guidance. In my case where n=2, naps during the day are/were not all that consistent but at night (unless they are very sick or something) the kids sleep .

3 for 3 sleeping through the night by 60 days. All we did was have a feeding schedule that we stuck to pretty closely, and around week 2 started intentionally delaying our response to night-time crying, gradually increasing how far we stretched it (start with maybe a minute, increase over time). They wake up at night and don’t know how to self-soothe back to sleep if you always jump in the second they make a sound, t…

Love to hear it, thanks for sharing. I only wish there were more parenting "tricks" like this that gave similar quality of life improvements.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life (2012)

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Post by apt-apt-apt-apt »

ButlerianJihad wrote: post #7

I am recently diagnosed with Type II Diabetes. The classic symptoms were unknown to me until this point when I researched them. I had previously blamed psych medications for the symptoms, and while they may have exacerbated them, I guess diabetes was the real root cause. One of the symptoms is frequent urination. And so, every night I wake up every 2 hours or so and crawl into the bathroom. It’s legitimately a huge c…

When I got older, night urination became an issue. But it doesn't happen as long as I control my liquids at night.

If you controlled your liquids at night, couldn't you make it nearly physically impossible to have to urinate frequently? Theoretically, it seems like you could resolve or at least significantly improve it like this.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life (2012)

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Post by apt-apt-apt-apt »

Who else constantly pushes their sleep time by 1-2 hours a day, and likes 9-10 hours of sleep?

Also, these days it's nearly impossible to stay awake watching a show for more than 10-15 minutes while lying down in bed before a powerful wave of sleep knocks me out, which can be annoying when I want to watch a show.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life (2012)

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Post by ButlerianJihad »

apt-apt-apt-apt wrote: post #192
ButlerianJihad wrote: post #7

I am recently diagnosed with Type II Diabetes. The classic symptoms were unknown to me until this point when I researched them. I had previously blamed psych medications for the symptoms, and while they may have exacerbated them, I guess diabetes was the real root cause. One of the symptoms is frequent urination. And so, every night I wake up every 2 hours or so and crawl into the bathroom. It’s legitimately a huge c…

When I got older, night urination became an issue. But it doesn't happen as long as I control my liquids at night. If you controlled your liquids at night, couldn't you make it nearly physically impossible to have to urinate frequently? Theoretically, it seems like you could resolve or at least significantly improve it like this.

Look, I live in a desert climate, and it's essential to be well-hydrated. Yes, I could cut back at certain times; in fact it was 15 years ago when my PCP encouraged me to stop drinking fluids after 6pm.

I've also had a struggle with riding public transit for long, long stretches. Because you often do not have any opportunity to use a restroom on those journeys, sometimes for 2-3 hours. So it's a delicate balance of surviving 120℉ desert weather vs. "gotta go now!!!"

Furthermore, you should be aware that there are three classic symptoms of diabetes: polyphagia, polyuria, and polydipsia. That third one means "excessive thirst"! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes#Signs_and_symptoms

So the diagnosis did explain something I'd struggled with for several years already: my nose, eyes, and throat were often drying out, not from a lack of hydration, but from the climate and simply chronic dryness. And I linked this to the polydipsia phenomenon. And again, I am thankful that I never got hooked on psychoactive drugs, because they all exacerbate these symptoms.

I have begun using Ricola throat balm lozenges to alleviate the dry-mouth symptom, because this often occurs even when I'm well-hydrated, and since I also suffered from hyponatremia, I do not want to guzzle excessive amounts of water!

So yeah, it's a delicate balancing act, whether I'm on a local city bus or trying to sleep in my own bed; how much am I gonna drink and how often am I gonna be interrupted?

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life (2012)

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Post by jdironman »

otikik wrote: post #174

> Go to sleep only when you are very tired. Not earlier. Not later. Wake up naturally without an alarm clock. If I did that I would go to bed a 5 in the morning and wake up at 2pm, sir.

Could be a symptom of poor stimulation regulation. I know that's the problem in my case. if I have a phone, screen, or even a book in front of me I can stay up until tomorrow. But, if I shut it all down (roughly 30 to 60 mins) before I actually plan to try and sleep it absolutely causes the tiredness to kick in.

I will say there are varying degrees of stimulation. Computer use > TV > Book reading > Music > silence and boredom. At least that is the order in which I shutdown on the nights I have the motivation to do so.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life (2012)

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Post by glerk »

BeetleB wrote: post #142
glerk wrote: post #129

I got 4h of sleep last night which is about my normal average at this time of the year, and I have 0 regrets about it. I also don't sleep at a regular time every day. If I have no other obligations, I naturally let it shift forward (what the article calls "delayed sleep phase"). I am most unhappy when I HAVE TO use an alarm clock and break my own patterns. Last night, I naturally went to sleep right before sunrise an…

I would suggest looking into the medical research on the downsides of getting little sleep. After a single night of low sleep (and 4 hours is low), even though you'll feel fine, your body will not process a lot of things the way it normally should (e.g. insulin response is significantly degraded). Over time, it supposedly significantly increases the likelihood of certain diseases/conditions. Peter Attia was one of th…

I am not dismissing the research and I am well aware there are tradeoffs. I am aware that low sleep puts extra strain on the brain and the body at large. I am aware of the increased inflammation, decreased CSF draining, cardiovascular issues, appetite issues, insulin tolerance etc. etc. I know that our bodies were optimized by evolution to function better with sleep cycles synced with circadian cycles, and I know that many of these very well optimized processes are put under stress when you sleep less than 6h per night.

Here's the thing: say what I have is a "disease" and currently, the best cure for this disease is a pill that would slow down my thoughts and make me into a bland emotionless vegetable during my waking hours in addition to reducing the amount of waking hours that I get to enjoy. Even if that magic pill buys me 20 extra years of old age at the tail end of my life, is it rational for me to take it in my early 30s?

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Post by angmarsbane »

tayo42 wrote: post #75
alphawhisky wrote: post #54

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I've got a Mexican American friend that lives multi-generationally and loves it. He's a few years out of high school with a good job in management and a nice car, money in the bank. His older brother gets help parenting from Tio and the grandparents, and generally everyone gets along well. He's almost kept up with me in savings for property and I'm married (our pay is pretty similar, but I have dual income). American…

> and generally everyone gets along well That's a very important statement I couldn't live with my grandma and couldn't live with my mom anymore. I needed space.

I read an interview once with an American woman who moved to Italy with her Italian husband. They lived in the same apartment building as her in-laws and in the morning her son would walk down to Nonna's for breakfast.

I love the idea of family living within walking distance but in their own domiciles, like townhomes or apartments or condos in the same building. This is another great argument for mixed zoning. A 55+ condo building in the same neighborhood with single family homes for large families and smaller townhomes/apartments for families that are just getting started.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life (2012)

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Post by ItsClo688 »

I am running a three-person team across three timezones has taught me that the hardest part isn't writing code at odd hours, it's the context-switching cost of partial sleep. You don't feel tired, you just feel slightly wrong all day. Decisions that should take 5 minutes take 30. The mental stability point rings true. When the product direction feels uncertain, sleep gets worse. When sleep gets worse, product decisions get fuzzier. Haven't fully solved this one.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life (2012)

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Post by CalRobert »

kakacik wrote: post #180
CalRobert wrote: post #60

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Where’d you go? We were told Ireland values children but that didn’t match our experience (we moved to the Netherlands which has been better at least)

Dont go to Switzerland. I can sing praise on this country for hours, but supporting families with kids aint one of the positives, in contrary. So far the worst aspect of being and staying here (apart from one specific immigration bureaucrat in Geneva, but thats a long and very specific story). Even rather backwardish France has this aspect figured out much better.

Beautiful country but as far as I’m aware pretty cold and socially hostile to outsiders… Too bad it pays so much better than most of Europe

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life (2012)

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Post by VanTodi »

angmarsbane wrote: post #197
tayo42 wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and generally everyone gets along well That's a very important statement I couldn't live with my grandma and couldn't live with my mom anymore. I needed space.

I read an interview once with an American woman who moved to Italy with her Italian husband. They lived in the same apartment building as her in-laws and in the morning her son would walk down to Nonna's for breakfast. I love the idea of family living within walking distance but in their own domiciles, like townhomes or apartments or condos in the same building. This is another great argument for mixed zoning. A 55+…

We are living on a Farm. So we have a huge main building where the aunts and grandma lives and we live in a different building. Kids can just run over, since it's no road in sight and everything. I feel rather blessed
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