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Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Hyperbolically, I think it's one of humanity's greatest resources. I can find anything from precision machining, LLM internals, historical footage of WWI, music performances from pretty much any era, and on, and on. There are so many things that I didn't know there was any footage of or that I didn't a single thing about that I find there pretty much daily. I wish the BBC would publish their whole archive through YT.…

Lowkey one the best things about LLMs, finally we have truly indexed YouTube which made up a massive amount of knowledge consumable and searchable in text format. I hate watching YouTube videos but like the information they provide between Youtube’s AI feature and Perplexitiy etc. Video indexing, it’s been a life saver.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Mandatory shoutout to Invidious: https://invidious.io https://github.com/iv-org/invidious An accessible interface to YouTube content without tracking, using a decentralized network of community-run instances that scrape, rather than API-call, site data. [EDIT] Also Yattee doing the Lord's work: https://github.com/yattee/yattee Privacy oriented video player for iOS, tvOS and macOS with Invidious support.

> that scrape

After hopping between several in the past, I've learned to avoid services that blatantly violate TOS for their existence, since they rarely last long, usually going private once the cease and desist letters start coming.

I ended up just going with the non-music youtube premium "lite" for $8/month.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Youtube's the only social media left where subscribing to a channel actually means something

Is it? I've heard YouTubers make snide comments about subscribing "as if that has any bearing on whether you see my videos", implying that it has minimal impact on the algo.

Well there's a dedicated subscriptions page which is nice.

On desktop, the homepage also has subscriptions on the side, with an indicator that someone has a new video.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

#194

Youtube must know better than me what to recommend me out of all the videos... still, I get presented the same shite again and again. To be fair: not everything is shite and Youtube is my favorite social media (especially for discovering new music), but I noticed a big drop in quality videos from one day to the other a couple of years ago. Just opening up Youtube one day and seeing all kinds of thumbnails with people…

my personal recommendation is to browse from new personality (aka, log out and clean cookies or privite session I guess)

you'd be surprised both how different recommendations can be, and how fast algorithm recognizes that it is you and starts giving all the same stuff again

but still, that's the best way of discovering new things that I've found

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

#195

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Those aren't competitors to YouTube for the sole reason that nearly anybody can upload to YouTube.

That is of no relevance to the customer/consumer. All of these companies are competing for customers of video entertainment.

My son (5) is interested in marble race videos. None of the platforms you mentioned have marble races like The Black Cat Gear or Moreballs.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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>They have an entire shorts section on my subscription page now Because the people you subscribe to are making those shorts. Your subscription page shows you all the most recent videos from the channels you’re subscribed to. That in no way is shoving anything down your throat. You’re just supposed to watch what you want to watch. You’re not expected to click and watch every video in your subscription feed.

Right but before they _didn't_ have an entire dang section for shorts lol. It's near the very top too, so I literally could not avoid seeing it. If they treated it as a normal video I wouldn't care as much. And unfortunately many YouTubers who do make normal, good content also make shorts because it's incredibly algorithm-friendly, so there's no avoiding it unless you blacklist every creator that dares make shorts.

>Right but before they _didn't_ have an entire dang section for shorts

An “entire section” isn’t “shoving” something down your throat. You literally don’t even have to process that part of the site with your brain.

When you go to Amazon are you just completely overwhelmed by all the stuff they’re “shoving down your throat”? I mean they have tons of sections on the home page. Are you actually bothered by that or are do you simply search for what you want like everyone else?

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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That’s not shoving them down anyone’s throats. If you don’t want to watch a short, don’t click on it. Just like if you don’t want to watch a video about a certain topic, you don’t click on it. Seeing that they exist is in no way an inconvenience or annoyance. You’re supposed to just watch what you want.

Sure it is Sundar. When I go to youtube i see a few videos in the top half. The bottom half of screen is a row of Shorts that I don't want and have to scroll past. In a normal world there'd be a profile setting that lets you opt-out of Shorts being shown. In a normal world there wouldn't be a fake 'show fewer shorts' button that does absolutely nothing.

In a normal world people just scroll past the things they aren’t looking for without even processing the stuff they don’t want.

It’s extremely easy to never click on a Short. I don’t understand the emotional response to these things at all. I’m sure there’s tons of normal videos you don’t want to watch that’s you simply scroll past that don’t elicit emotion whatsoever.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is of no relevance to the customer/consumer. All of these companies are competing for customers of video entertainment.

My son (5) is interested in marble race videos. None of the platforms you mentioned have marble races like The Black Cat Gear or Moreballs.

ok well my daughter is interested in horror movies.

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

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Exactly. Isn't this supposed to be Hacker news? I find it hard to believe that there are people on this site without an adblocker.

Believe it. I'm one.

I'm curious, care to elaborate on why?

Re: YouTube now world's largest media company, topping Disney

#200

Hyperbolically, I think it's one of humanity's greatest resources. I can find anything from precision machining, LLM internals, historical footage of WWI, music performances from pretty much any era, and on, and on. There are so many things that I didn't know there was any footage of or that I didn't a single thing about that I find there pretty much daily. I wish the BBC would publish their whole archive through YT.…

> some cracking Scottish chap going for a bike ride with a bottle of whisky. I've seen that one!

I hope he is doing well, or at least had a great ride through life.
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