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Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by BeetleB »

instalabsai wrote: post #177
BeetleB wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The two things I like about OpenRouter: 1. The LLM provider doesn't know it's you (unless you have personally identifiable information in your queries). If N people are accessing GPT-5.x using OpenRouter, OpenAI can't distinguish the people. It doesn't know if 1 person made all those requests, or N. 2. The ability to ensure your traffic is routed only to providers that claim not to log your inputs (not even for secur…

One additional major benefit of OpenRouter is that there is no rate limiting. This is the primary reason why we went with OpenRouter because of the tight rate limiting with the native providers.

I think it's more accurate to say that they switch providers when there is rate limiting.

The underlying provider can still limit rates. What Openrouter provides is automatic switching between providers for the same model.

(I could be wrong.)

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by tern »

extr wrote: post #109

I think you are kidding if you think you are going to be remotely approximately the quantity/quality of output you get from a $100/max sub with Zed/Openrouter. I easily get $1K+ of usage out of my $100 max sub. And that's with Opus 4.6 on high thinking.

According to the meter, I used $15k in tokens with my Max plan (along with $5k of Codex tokens) in the last 30 days. That built an entire working and (lightly) optimized language, parser, compiler, runtime toolchain among other things.

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by ElFitz »

recursivegirth wrote: post #189
ElFitz wrote: post #15

Has anyone (other than OpenClaw) used pi? ( https://shittycodingagent.ai/ , https://pi.dev/ ) Any insights / suggestions / best practices?

I bought a $30 Z.ai Coding Plan sub to go with it. 7 million tokens has only gone through 2% of my weekly usage using the GLM-5.1 model. I am pretty happy. I am only doing single project workflows, but with Z.ai I feel like it opens a whole new door to parallel workflows without hitting usage limits.

Yeah, that's pretty much the lines I was thinking along. Perhaps use codex for planning / reviews, but otherwise go with z.ai / minimax for actual implementation. Thanks!

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by avilay »

supernes wrote: post #22

On the topic of Zed itself as a VSCode replacement - my experience is mixed. I loved it at first, but with time the papercuts add up. The responsiveness difference isn't that big on my system, but Zed's memory usage (with the TS language server in particular) is scandalous. As far as DX goes it's probably at 85% of the level VSCode provides, but in this space QoL features matter a lot. Oh, and it still can't render e…

The point about papercuts adding up so resonates with me! I loved Zed initially and did find it more responsive than VS Code, loved the Zed Agent autocomplete, etc. However, I eventually and reluctantly went back to VS Code. The papercut that finally did it for me was [this open bug](https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/36516) because of which I was not able to step into a packaged library's code when I was debugging my own code, this was in Python.

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by mongrelion »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #155

I just so happen to be doing a price comparison for different cloud LLM providers right now. It turns out some of the cheapest providers with the highest limits are ones you might not have heard of. OpenCode Go has the simplest plan at the highest rate limits for any subscription plan with multiple model families, and it's $10/month ($5/month for first month). With the cheapest model in the plan (MiniMax M2.5), it is…

I have been so far happy with the value that Copilot brought but for the past few weeks I have felt the chokehold on the number of requests.

I have had the chance to test the main Chinese models through OpenRouter but the Pay-as-you-go model is expensive compared to a subscription model, but I don't want to marry to a single provider.

Thanks for bringing OpenCode Go to my attention. Your comparison is the research I didn't know I needed, and I will be cancelling my Copilot subscription to replace it with OpenCode Go right away.

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by infecto »

lelanthran wrote: post #114
extr wrote: post #109

I think you are kidding if you think you are going to be remotely approximately the quantity/quality of output you get from a $100/max sub with Zed/Openrouter. I easily get $1K+ of usage out of my $100 max sub. And that's with Opus 4.6 on high thinking.

> I easily get $1K+ of usage out of my $100 max sub. And that's with Opus 4.6 on high thinking. And people keep claiming the token providers are running inference at a profit.

Yes and when we say things like that we are not talking about plans. Running inference at a profit means api token use is run profitably. It’s a huge unknown what’s happening at the plan level, we know there is subsidy happening but in aggregate impossible to know if it’s profitable or not.

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by veber-alex »

extr wrote: post #107
supernes wrote: post #22

On the topic of Zed itself as a VSCode replacement - my experience is mixed. I loved it at first, but with time the papercuts add up. The responsiveness difference isn't that big on my system, but Zed's memory usage (with the TS language server in particular) is scandalous. As far as DX goes it's probably at 85% of the level VSCode provides, but in this space QoL features matter a lot. Oh, and it still can't render e…

I actually find Zed pretty reasonable in terms of memory usage. But yeah, like you say, there are lots of small UX/DX papercuts that are just unfortunate. In some cases I'm not sure it's even Zed's fault, it's just years and years of expecting things to work a certain way because of VS Code and they work differently in Zed. Eg: Ctrl+P "Open Fol.." in Zed does not surface "Opening a Folder". Zed doesn't call them fold…

The issues you described show a critical lack of awareness from the Zed developers that people migrate to their IDE mainly from VS Code.

They are blowing their "weirdness budget" on nonsense.

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by brazukadev »

Daviey wrote: post #80
embedding-shape wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Honestly, it seems you are grumpy, so it was probably a good idea to extend that vacation. Being rude just creates a more toxic environment for everyone. Maybe extend that break for the rest of the month and come back nicer? Thanks Honestly, it seems like both of you were feeling a bit "grumpy" at the moment, but sending passive aggressiveness towards the maintainer you are trying to get to merge your code (or not…

You know, when I wrote that I genuinely meant it, or at least I think i did. It wasn't supposed to be passive aggressive. :( But that doesn't negate the maintainer talking to people like that (and taking contributions without attribution).. and the net result is I don't want to use the software, and frankly they probably won't miss me.. so the end result is neutral.. I just find it sad.

> You know, when I wrote that I genuinely meant it, or at least I think i did. It wasn't supposed to be passive aggressive. :(

That's a great opportunity for self reflection.

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