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Microsoft terminates VeraCrypt account, halting Windows updates

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Re: Microsoft terminates VeraCrypt account, halting Windows updates

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All PKI topologies have tradeoffs. The main benefit to a centralized certification/signing authority is that you don't have to delegate the complexity of trust to peers in the system: a peer knows that a signature is valid because it can chain it back to a pre-established root of trust, rather than having to establish a new degree of trust in a previously unknown party. The downside to a centralized authority is that…

> a peer knows that a signature is valid because it can chain it back to a pre-established root of trust, rather than having to establish a new degree of trust in a previously unknown party. So the apt binary on your system comes with the public keys of the Debian packagers and then verifies that packages are signed by them, or by someone else whose keys you've chosen to add for a third party repository. They are the…

> What is obtained by further centralization?

Nothing, I can’t think of a reason why you would want to centralize further. But that doesn’t mean it isn’t already centralized; the fact that every Debian ISO comes with the keyring baked into it demonstrates the value of centralization.

> Each package manager uses its own independent root of trust.

Yes, each is an independent PKI, each of which is independently centralized. Centralization doesn’t mean one authority; it’s just the way you distribute trust, and it’s the natural (and arguably only meaningful) way to distribute trust in a single-source packaging ecosystem like most Linux distros have.

Re: Microsoft terminates VeraCrypt account, halting Windows updates

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> serious question. Back in the 90s viruses were huge business, No, they were not. They were toys written for fun and/or mischief. The virus authors did not receive any monetary reward from writing them, so they were not even a _business_. So they were the work of individuals, not large teams. The turning point was Bitcoin. Suddenly it provided all those nice new business models that can be scaled up: mining, stealin…

Malware was absolutely used to sell botnet access in the 90s, millions of Windows machines were used for DDoS and as anonymous proxies

The '90s was a bit too soon for that. Most people using the Internet then were still on dialup, to the extent they were connected at all. There weren't that many DDoSes yet. Even the Trin00 DDoS in 1999 only involved 114 machines.

Re: Microsoft terminates VeraCrypt account, halting Windows updates

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It's not free at all. If you buy Windows through the official channels it's quite expensive. If you buy it on the grey market, it's dirt cheap, though.

And even if you pay $1,000,000/day to use it, it still spies on you and sells your data to outsiders.

Exactly, yet lots of people are happy to keep using it and paying the price to do so, despite the existence of free and far superior alternatives.

Re: Microsoft terminates VeraCrypt account, halting Windows updates

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> serious question. Back in the 90s viruses were huge business, No, they were not. They were toys written for fun and/or mischief. The virus authors did not receive any monetary reward from writing them, so they were not even a _business_. So they were the work of individuals, not large teams. The turning point was Bitcoin. Suddenly it provided all those nice new business models that can be scaled up: mining, stealin…

Malware was absolutely used to sell botnet access in the 90s, millions of Windows machines were used for DDoS and as anonymous proxies

DDoS for sale were not a big thing until Bitcoin. You couldn't transfer meaningful amounts anonymously.

And no, lol. There were no million machine botnets in 90-s. You could DDoS the entire countries with a few dozen computers, Slammer did that accidentally with Korea.

Re: Microsoft terminates VeraCrypt account, halting Windows updates

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No? I have locks on my house and car that I have the keys for. That an argument _for_ secure boot.

Sorry dwattttt, I’m unable to verify your identity and your keys are disabled. If you have an issue, please fax a copy of your DUNS number.

You don't have the ability to revoke my keys on this machine, that's the point. Not even MS could do that, because these are _my_ keys. The alternative proposed here is no keys at all.

Re: Microsoft terminates VeraCrypt account, halting Windows updates

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There's a good reason everyone calls them microslop these days. The sooner we're all able to ditch this crappy company, the better - they're actively holding back the tech industry at this point

Yea, I'm in the process of converting our complete ETL infrastructure from SSIS/SQL Server to Python/PostgreSQL. Next step is Office 365, which will be more difficult, but doable since we are a small company anyway.

Apple suite (Pages, Numbers etc) works well, has good mobility to mobile, and is free.

Apple Mail and Apple Calendar are fine to replace Exchange, as is Thunderbird(see 1), but Mail is more turnkey (1-click pairs with MS Exchange)

You can downgrade your O365 licenses to Exchange Plan 1 and keep your email hosting at a tiny fraction of the price of full 365 suite.

(1): Beware thunderbird has an open and unsolved bug that randomly deletes all your emails, kind of like a 1d1 million dice roll.

Re: Microsoft terminates VeraCrypt account, halting Windows updates

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I still hope that one of these days people in general will realize that executable signing and SecureBoot are specifically designed for controlling what a normal person can run, rather than for anything resembling real security. The premises of either of those "mitigations" make absolutely no sense for personal computers.

Executable signing is also designed to make easy money from selling certificates

Re: Microsoft terminates VeraCrypt account, halting Windows updates

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They did, just further into the article: > According to a post on Hacker News, the popular VPN client WireGuard is facing the same issue.

I meant to say, in the title. As Wireguard is way more popular than VeraCrypt...

Wireguard will get fixed.

Microsoft is building things on top of it:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/aks/container-networ...

Re: Microsoft terminates VeraCrypt account, halting Windows updates

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> If your threat model is Iran Well... they wouldn't be the first ones to black out the Internet either. And I'm not just talking about threats specific to oneself here because that is a much different threat model, but the effects of being collateral damage as well. Say, your country's leader says something that makes the US President cry - who's to say he doesn't order SpaceX to disable Starlink for your country? O…

> Say, your country's leader says something that makes the US President cry - who's to say he doesn't order SpaceX to disable Starlink for your country? Then you tether to your phone or visit the local library or coffee shop and use the WiFi, or call into the system using an acoustic coupler on an analog phone line or find a radio or build a telegraph or stand on a tall hill and use flag semaphore in your country tha…

The boot verification code wasn't replaced, because it sits in the encrypted partition.

Re: Microsoft terminates VeraCrypt account, halting Windows updates

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A year ago I used Azure Trusted Signing to codesign FOSS software that I distribute for Windows. It was the cheapest way to give away free software on that platform. A couple of months ago I needed to renew the certificate because it expired, and I ran into the same issue as the author here - verification failed, and they refused to accept any documentation I would give them. Very frustrating experience, especially s…

For what it’s worth, Trusted Signing verification has been a moving target over the last 12 months. It was open for individuals, then it was closed to anyone except (iirc) US businesses with DUNS numbers, then it opened again to US based individuals (and a few other countries perhaps). My completely uninformed guess was that someone had done something naughty with Trusted Signing-issued code signing certificates. Any…

Anyway, when I first saw the VeraCrypt thing this morning my initial reaction was “I wonder if Iran uses VeraCrypt”
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