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I am definitely missing the pre-AI writing era

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Re: I am definitely missing the pre-AI writing era

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Post by jrflowers »

boca_honey wrote: post #133
ianseyer wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I think that is the beauty of writing, the raw , unedited emotions of the person behind every words either for entertainment or educational purposes, is what makes it special" - the article, clearly expressing the intent of its own mistakes and contextualizing them in the era of LLM-borne "perfect" text

I appreciate the sentiment, and good for him. However, from an audience perspective, why choose to watch a guy filming himself eating cereal with a shaky phone camera when you could watch The Sopranos? (or the latest MrBeast extravaganza, to avoid being pedantic). I guess it's OK if you enjoy reading someone expressing himself without communicating anything valuable and well produced. It's kind of like people who enj…

> why choose to watch a guy filming himself eating cereal with a shaky phone camera when you could watch The Sopranos? (or the latest MrBeast extravaganza, to avoid being pedantic).

This is a specifically funny question because every Masaokis video is better than every MrBeast video

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OERZ8Pqs9iU

Re: I am definitely missing the pre-AI writing era

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Post by shagie »

simianwords wrote: post #180
mandolingual wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Flaw become aesthetic all time. People faked butt bandage follow Sun King fashion. Ugly as sin, still aesthetic.

lol

Kurzgesagt typically does STEM focused videos... they've got a new channel "After Dark" which focuses on history and historical figures. Their first one: Kurzgesagt After Dark The Final Days of Louis XIV - https://youtu.be/bIwX4QuL90k?si=9WLbzKqxo08KCDum&t=564

> And though the operation was done in secret, a new fashion sweeps the court: Bandages wrapped around everyone’s buttocks.

Re: I am definitely missing the pre-AI writing era

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Post by Liftyee »

dhosek wrote: post #183

I’ve completely avoided using AI for writing (although it looks like my coding avoidance is coming to an end). As someone who kind of views using a thesaurus as “cheating”¹, using AI to do the writing is way beyond the pale. A lot of what writing is about for me is about discovering and distilling and figuring out what I think. Take that away and I might as well just the spend the day watching television and playing…

Why is it upsetting to see the same patterns repeated when you have something to say?

Re: I am definitely missing the pre-AI writing era

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Post by Morromist »

hectdev wrote: post #102
piker wrote: post #86

AI for editing is garbage. Chat to it to get ideas maybe, but in its current incarnation it’s just going to degrade anything you filter through it.

I work mostly on the tech side of things but my corporate limitation has always been writing up documentation, communicating/translating to stakeholders, and recalling everything relevant when writing PR descriptions. AI has been a breath of fresh air. I actually communicate more information efficiently than I would have ever put the effort into before. I still maintain my own writing for more casual things like soci…

"I actually communicate more information efficiently than I would have ever put the effort into before"

- this is subjective and evidence seems to point to the opposite in my view. In reality most people who think they communicate better with AI don't actually read what the AI has written for them and just puke it out on the world, expecting their readers to do the work.

The Ai almost always writes boring, repetitive garbage and very, very often includes redundant information. But saying it creates more efficiant communication is a great excuse for being sloppy and lazy.

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Post by saltcured »

ianseyer wrote: post #124
boca_honey wrote: post #119

>I just wrote what my brain is instructing to type (might not reread it before posting) Why would I put effort into reading something that had no effort put in by the author? This guy needs an editor, AI or otherwise.

"I think that is the beauty of writing, the raw , unedited emotions of the person behind every words either for entertainment or educational purposes, is what makes it special" - the article, clearly expressing the intent of its own mistakes and contextualizing them in the era of LLM-borne "perfect" text

Here's a possibly fun topic to navel gaze on...

Compare thoughts on this notion of AI and authenticity in writing to the way things like auto-tuners and sequencers have been perceived in the music world.

Like there are some esoteric corners of the Jazz space where musicians seem to try to emulate a sequencing machine and play perfect notes, will there be writers trying to emulate the clean AI performance? :-/

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Post by kogasa240p »

gwern wrote: post #150
jhhh wrote: post #145

I miss the text only reading era. This is a blog and should not need to have JavaScript enabled to render text to a page. I would rather not have to be annoyed by flavor of the month duplicate scroll bars, cookie banners, newsletter pop-ups 5 seconds in, scroll to the top pop-ups, idle overlays, highlight helper bars that break copy paste, etc. This blog didn't have all of those but had some. I'm sure the metrics loo…

You'll love GreaterWrong, then: https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/BJ4pnropWdnzzgeJc/i-am-de...

Thanks, I keep JS disabled on most sites and am continually baffled on why simple text and image blogs are web apps now.

Re: I am definitely missing the pre-AI writing era

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Post by scorpionfeet »

shafyy wrote: post #43
everdrive wrote: post #35

Not joking, buy and read books. Old books are only written by people. (and the help of an editor)

Fun fact: Editors are usually also people. Except for that one dog I met during a cold winter's day in 1987 in a run-down London pub.

Can you explain the reference? It whooshed me.

Re: I am definitely missing the pre-AI writing era

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Post by nyfresh »

jhhh wrote: post #145

I miss the text only reading era. This is a blog and should not need to have JavaScript enabled to render text to a page. I would rather not have to be annoyed by flavor of the month duplicate scroll bars, cookie banners, newsletter pop-ups 5 seconds in, scroll to the top pop-ups, idle overlays, highlight helper bars that break copy paste, etc. This blog didn't have all of those but had some. I'm sure the metrics loo…

I long for the days of hand written scrolls. Fresh papyrus adorned with the latest calligraphy and stamped with a warm wax seal…
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