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Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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Post by tinfoilhatter »

BigTTYGothGF wrote: post #167
tinfoilhatter wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, the kabba is also a nod to Saturn (which is why I said all Abrahamic religions incorporate some Saturn worship into them), and the people walking around the kabba make the rings of Saturn (if you employ some time-lapse photography of them walking around, it's quite obvious). Saturn has a hexagonal shaped storm on its north pole (and the all-seeing eye on its south pole). If you collapse a cube into two dimension…

> rings of Saturn Not observed until 1610 > Saturn has a hexagonal shaped storm on its north pole Not observed until 1981/1987 > and the all-seeing eye on its south pole Not immediately clear when first observed, I'll bet it wasn't until Cassini got there in 2004. I appreciate the creativity in a new-to-me conspiracy theory, but be a little more careful about the historical record.

Not observed and yet depicted in symbolism by different cultures dating back to Babylon. Quite the mystery indeed... I'm sure you have an explanation for how the Dogon tribe knew more about the Sirius star system than we did until relatively recently as well.

It's quite egotistical and foolish to assume we're more advanced and know more than our ancient ancestors, or that what is written in our history books is objective truth.

In fact, even scholars have suggested that Babylonians could and did observe at least one of Saturn's rings - https://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_que...

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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Post by tinfoilhatter »

rdevilla wrote: post #142
tinfoilhatter wrote: post #116

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> The god El is commonly associated with Saturn and commonly referred to as Saturn El. This is demonstrably false; see Liber 777 cols. I, II, V, and VII. Saturn is assigned key scale 3 (col I) and is associated with the Name of God "Tetragrammaton Elohim," while "El" is traditionally reserved for the fourth sephira, representing Jupiter. Six is a solar number, attributed to Christ and Ra (though also Osiris; but see…

Or you could just reference Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_(deity) which claims numerous associations between Saturn and El. Or you could conduct an internet search for Saturn El and find a plethora of additional resources that confirm the association between the two.

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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Post by fromMars »

epolanski wrote: post #84

It's insane the power and influence Israelis have. In the US it's blatant, from the insane amounts of money and weaponry sent to Israel (why are american taxpayers subsidizing Israel exactly? It's not like they are neither poor nor US owes them) to the recent events in the middle east. But even in Europe. Here in Italy the coalition government has multiple high profile politicians that just happen to be shareholders…

As a Jewish American, I don't think it's antisemitic. We really shouldn't be sending any money or weapons to Israel or joining them in any wars.

What I do think is a bit antisemitic is the suggestion that Israel is somehow unique here. Russia, China, and the U.S. are all doing this. Heck we just captured Maduro and killed leader of Iran. I just think a country like Russia is way more effective and subtle when it comes to election manipulation, especially in Eastern Europe.

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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Post by hebelehubele »

rendall wrote: post #172
rekrsiv wrote: post #107

Quick question: Could they also be manipulating this message board's voting?

Lol. If Israel could manipulate HN do you think so many anti-Israel posts would appear on the front page, and each mitigating or nuanced comment about Israel would be flagged so quickly? No, Israel does not control or manipulate HN.

Vast majority of post critical of Israel get flagged as soon as they get enough traction

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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Post by fromMars »

lenerdenator wrote: post #188
epolanski wrote: post #84

It's insane the power and influence Israelis have. In the US it's blatant, from the insane amounts of money and weaponry sent to Israel (why are american taxpayers subsidizing Israel exactly? It's not like they are neither poor nor US owes them) to the recent events in the middle east. But even in Europe. Here in Italy the coalition government has multiple high profile politicians that just happen to be shareholders…

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As a Jew and I don't think that is true at all and feel it is a bit of a dangerous characterization. Jews have just as much scruples as any other groups.

What I do think is true is that Jews have more fear of others based on past treatment and even a lot of current rhetoric and may justify actions as necessary for safety.

We do also happen to be a very small group of people. For instance, Palestinians have 1 billion Muslims supporting them.

That said, I happen to think that these unscrupulous policies will actually cause more harm than good.

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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Post by rendall »

submeta wrote: post #187
rendall wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol. If Israel could manipulate HN do you think so many anti-Israel posts would appear on the front page, and each mitigating or nuanced comment about Israel would be flagged so quickly? No, Israel does not control or manipulate HN.

Maybe there are lots more articles posted on HN criticising Israel, and only a fraction remains, because they win the up- and downvote war?

Not a single pro-Israel article, nor even any article that even mentions Israel neutrally, has ever reached the front page of HN in the entire history of HN.

So, no. Israel is not "winning the up- and downvote war" of HN.

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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Post by fromMars »

gregoryyy wrote: post #138
epolanski wrote: post #84

It's insane the power and influence Israelis have. In the US it's blatant, from the insane amounts of money and weaponry sent to Israel (why are american taxpayers subsidizing Israel exactly? It's not like they are neither poor nor US owes them) to the recent events in the middle east. But even in Europe. Here in Italy the coalition government has multiple high profile politicians that just happen to be shareholders…

Actually - it's not Israeli influence. It's pro-Israel influence. Important difference. This includes lobby organisations funded or founded by wealthy Jews, conservative Christian lobbyists, pro-arms trade interests, and geopolitical interests (essentially Israel acts as a US military proxy they can use to keep the middle east in check). Not quite Israel secretly pulling strings (which is quite rightly dismissed as t…

Agree with your post. As a Jewish American, I have been advocating that it would be better for Americans and even Jews if we stop sending money to Israel and put political pressure on Israel to abandon illegal settlements, end the war on Gaza and work towards a resolution of the Israeli Palestinian conflict.

Unfortunately, this POV doesn't seem to be widely held by many woth influence.

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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Post by tinfoilhatter »

throw7 wrote: post #170
selimthegrim wrote: post #118

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Isn't Islam the one with the Black Cube?

Also NeXT.

And Steve Jobs priced the first Apple computer at - $666.66

The influence of the Kabbalah and the occult sciences on Silicon Valley and the world at large is quite obvious if one is looking and doesn't brush these subjects off as woohoo / conspiratorial (which most people do).

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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Post by reducesuffering »

vrganj wrote: post #70

Israel under Netanyahu is part of the international antidemocratic axis of imperialist autocracy. Other members, in no particular order: Orban, Trump, Putin, Babis, Thiel, Bolsonaro, Ellison, Milei, Nawrocki. These gentlemen (and of course they're all men) constitute the 21st century axis of evil, responsible for most of the backsliding and worsening of rule of law around the world.

Milei though? His social views, eccentric behavior, and seeing other right wing leaders as kindred spirits is unfortunate.

However, practically and policy-wise, what has he done that's antidemocratic or imperialist? He's repeatedly democratically elected, as part of the people's mandate to fix their economy, and despite leftwing hang-wringing it'll never work, all data seems to point to their economy getting better.

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