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Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by rayiner »

AnotherGoodName wrote: post #42
carbocation wrote: post #2

The article kind of downplays the most interesting elements. Not an expert, but to my limited understanding: * I think this is the longest-range use of a ballistic missile in anger, possibly ever? * This seems to reveal previously-unknown range of Iranian ballistic missiles and, if true, could touch basically all of Europe?

> This seems to reveal previously-unknown range of Iranian ballistic missiles and, if true, could touch basically all of Europe True but they have also literally launched multiple orbital satellites from iran on iranian rockets. Eg. The Noor 2 spy satellite and before that the Noor 1 series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noor_2_(satellite) These are in orbit to this day. They regularly post images it takes of US milit…

The downplaying of Iran’s capabilities is a weird kind of racism IMHO. In the modern view, Iranians have been categorized as “brown” so people lump them together with Somalians and Afghans. But Iran is a technologically and politically sophisticated country. In terms of the Civ tech tree, it’s higher than any middle eastern country except Israel.

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by shepherdjerred »

netsharc wrote: post #46
cardanome wrote: post #22

Accusing Iran of "lashing out" and being "reckless" by attacking US bases while the US and Israel literally murder school children, bomb hospitals and assassinate state leaders is rich. It didn't have to be this way but they decided this to turn into a fight of survival for Iran and destroy any option for a peaceful resolution. Now they are going to pay the price.

Unfortunately it's we who will pay the price, with "we" being the entire world, considering the destruction of a lot of oil production infrastructure will cause a price hike for everything.

TBH I am a little more concerned about people dying from the conflict than paying a bit more for gas

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by polotics »

delichon wrote: post #118
chatmasta wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A missile would need to fly all the way over Europe before reaching London. It would be noticed, jets would be scrambled and it would be shot. Just like what happened here.

These were ballistic missiles. They are only vulnerable during the terminal phase, when they are moving at hypersonic speeds. Standard fighter jets aren't going to do it. It would take ground based THAAD, Patriot, or ship based Aegis systems. London might want to budget for that.

or take (less) of these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAMP/T 8^)

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by CamperBob2 »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #36
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #9

Diego Garcia is strategically very important to global security according to the US Had something actually struck within the ADIZ there would have been massive implications. My guess is they intentionally failed as a warning shot. This isn’t a random act and its quite the signal if you know what it means, Iran knows what it did here.

If you're already at war, why waste resources on warning shots?

See also the Doolittle Raid.

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by thomassmith65 »

cardanome wrote: post #119
einszwei wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your comment made me realise that while Iran has attacked a dozen countries, they have yet to attack a school or a hospital. Not condoning anyone but shows the priority of both sides.

Well some civilians have been injured when Iran attacked the hotels where US agents were stationed. Mostly due to them being foreign workers and well we all know how Dubai and the Saudis treat foreign workers. They were not allowed evacuate in time. Of course it will be hard to completely avoid civilian casualties in the long run, I fear but yeah Iran has been pretty measured. Iran's fight is with the US imperialists…

The mullahs and IRGC are not famous for their compassion or kind-heartedness.

They are infamous for fulminating against liberals, plotting to kill enemies, torturing and hanging dissidents from cranes, persecuting minorities and women, funding terror cells, and fleecing their citizens to enrich themselves.

Many of the comments here suffer from a misguided refusal to be impressed by the regime's reputation, as though anyone the American establishment criticises must automatically be righteous.

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by isr »

throw310822 wrote: post #120
breppp wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Its a mystery how "the terrorists" have launched 1000's of missiles & drones, in 70+ (and counting) waves, across 3 weeks, spanning across the region, and yet they have ABJECTLY FAILED to:

* hit any hospital

* blow up any school

* nor murder any journalists.

Yet, despite this stunning lack of accuracy from ... "the terrorists", they have somehow managed to hit EVERYTHING ELSE they were aiming at.

On the other hand, the "West", who are absolutely NOT terrorists, have managed to blow up schools, slaughter hundreds and hundreds of school children, smash multiple hospitals, take out as many health workers & first responders as possible with double tap strikes ...

and let's not even mention the number of journalists deliberately targeted & killed, nor the families of journalists, deliberately targeted & killed

And to answer the "but they killed 25 million of their own civilians just weeks ago", it would be almost churlish to point out that the MASSIVE pro-Iran public sentiments expressed by ALL sectors of Iranian society would, to a logically thinking person, lead one to conclude that perhaps, just perhaps, the media campaign behind those riots was just pushing a complete LIE. Because those reports don't fit in a reality where, under direct bombardment and personal risk, those same civilians are supporting their state, their government & their leadership.

As always, the simplest explanations which fit observable facts are usually closest to the actual truth. And the simplest explanation is that the "definitely NOT terroristic" West has been lying about Iran, consistantly, for decades.

Either that, or the Mango Mussolini is the new Oracle of Delphi.

Go pick the hill you want to stand on ...

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by ChuckMcM »

carbocation wrote: post #2

The article kind of downplays the most interesting elements. Not an expert, but to my limited understanding: * I think this is the longest-range use of a ballistic missile in anger, possibly ever? * This seems to reveal previously-unknown range of Iranian ballistic missiles and, if true, could touch basically all of Europe?

I think the article downplays the element that the attack probably achieved its goal which was not to actually hit something at Diego Garcia, but to show that thing 2500 miles from Iran are potentially targetable by Iran. That starts conversations like the one here and in other fora about whether or not Iran would limit themselves to military targets (Russia doesn't as an example) and if not how could Europe and its East Asian allies protect literally everything with their finite supply of defensive units.

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by 10xDev »

energy123 wrote: post #186
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason people leave North Korea alone is because they have nuclear weapon(s)

The reason people left North Korea alone while they were building nuclear weapons is because they weren't arming 5 terrorist proxies and they didn't have a doomsday countdown clock in their capital city.

True, Kim Jong Un is actually pretty chill, just likes testing some nukes towards Japan as a hobby. Are people genuinely retarded? Or is it the severe Israel bias?

Re: Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by lostlogin »

AnotherGoodName wrote: post #42
carbocation wrote: post #2

The article kind of downplays the most interesting elements. Not an expert, but to my limited understanding: * I think this is the longest-range use of a ballistic missile in anger, possibly ever? * This seems to reveal previously-unknown range of Iranian ballistic missiles and, if true, could touch basically all of Europe?

> This seems to reveal previously-unknown range of Iranian ballistic missiles and, if true, could touch basically all of Europe True but they have also literally launched multiple orbital satellites from iran on iranian rockets. Eg. The Noor 2 spy satellite and before that the Noor 1 series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noor_2_(satellite) These are in orbit to this day. They regularly post images it takes of US milit…

> I think one of the problems we are having right now is that we have leaders who actively believed the downplaying of Irans military capabilities.

Was that the problem?

The US handling of the situation seems the elephant in the room.

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