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Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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i've been on hn a long time, and if there's a prohibition against anything vaguely political if it can't be connected to technology, i've never known it.

I was shadowbanned for mentioning Iryna Zarutska. Most political topics can be connected to technology: technology after all is often how we hear of and discuss these things.

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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The situation in the West Bank (and similar forces are at play in Gaza, too) remind me of what's wrong with American policing, at a far more extreme scale. The people charged with enforcing the peace deploy lethal force with near impunity at the slightest "provocation" (a child throwing a stone, a car driving too fast); I wouldn't be surprised if IDF forces deployed to the West Bank are trained much like American pol…

> I wouldn't be surprised if IDF forces deployed to the West Bank are trained much like American police officers are IDF trains them. https://www.amnestyusa.org/blog/with-whom-are-many-u-s-polic...

David Simon and others have written extensively for decades about the problems with the Baltimore Police Department, and other departments around the country. They trace these problems back to the war on drugs and other purely American factors.

The Amnesty article that you're citing is a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. The Baltimore Police Department did not need to learn about constitutional violations from the Israelis.

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I am German. My government does not acknowledge the tragedy that has been unfolding in Gaza since the Hamas attack in October 2023. It’s absurd. Since then, Jewish people in Berlin who were demonstrating alongside Palestinians against the war in Gaza have been beaten down by the German police. In 2021, Esther Bejarano, the last survivor of the Auschwitz Girls’ Orchestra, passed away in Hamburg. Whenever she commented…

The last time I was in Berlin (2018), I was actually somewhat shocked by the amount of antisemitic graffiti that I saw just about everywhere (especially on lamp posts). Especially given the strictness of the laws against such speech.

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Please take your propaganda elsewhere. If Hamas or any other group in the region perpetrated any of the war crimes that Israel commits on any given day, every media outlet would be writing about it for weeks. In the meantime, Israel can bomb Gaza literally every day since the so-called ceasefire and nobody bats an eye. Israel just now acquitted its soldiers caught raping Palestinians in custody on camera. No coverage, no outcry. Israel is very objectively a bad guy, armed with nukes.

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Which war? This happened in the West Bank!

For people who don't follow this, the West Bank has a different government vs Gaza (they are not friends!), and is in fact pretty compliant wrt Israel.

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No that actually never happened. The very day Israel declared its independence its army was already outside the territory proposed for it by the UN's partition plan. Israel itself never declared what its borders were.

wrong Here are only some examples of Israel compromising (land and other) for the sake of peace: 1. Hebron Protocol — 1997 2. Wye River Memorandum — 1998 3. Sharm el-Sheikh Memorandum — 1999 4. Gaza Disengagement Plan — 2005 5. Naharayim/Baqura and Tzofar/Ghamr special-regime expiration — 2019 6. Israel-Lebanon Maritime Boundary Agreement — 2022 Those only that were applied, many more offers were rejected by other si…

In all of these situations, settlements continued to be built.

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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I think the middle eastern conflicts are a tragedy. That said, this story does not belong on HN. As others called out this is a tech community and while there is sometimes an overlap with politics, it should at least be somewhat related like mass surveillance or AI being used for war.

HN is one of the most informative and least toxic communities and I’d appreciate if it would stay this way.

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