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Re: The 49MB web page

#191
An anecdote from an OG (me):

The same phenomenon worsened during the DotCom Meltdown and the Great Financial Crisis. This accelerated desperation is a sign of the times; paying subscribers are likely cancelling due to current economic conditions.

Re: The 49MB web page

#192
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> We really shouldn't allow web developers more than 128kbit Marketing dept. too. They're the primary culprits in all the tracking scripts.

Reserve a huge share of the blame for the “UX dEsIgNeRs”. Let’s demand to reimplement every single standard widget in a way that has 50% odds of being accessible, has bugs, doesn’t work correctly with autofill most of the time, and adds 600kB of code per widget. Our precious branding requires it.

> Let’s demand to reimplement every single standard widget in a way that has 50% odds of being accessible, has bugs, doesn’t work correctly with autofill most of the time, and adds 600kB of code per widget.

You're describing the web developers again. (Or, if UX has the power to demand this from software engineering, then the problem is not the UX designers.)

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Fuck that. I just left a job where the IT dept just said "yes and" to the executives for 30 years. It was the most fucked environment I've ever seen, and that's saying a lot coming from the MSP space. Professionals get hired to do these things so they can say "No, that's a terrible idea" when people with no knowledge of the domain make requests. Your attitude is super toxic.

I suppose the realities of teamwork can be seen as "toxic" by some individuals.

I suppose I understand why devs who don’t know how to say no, or work with stakeholders, are terrified of AI. What value do you have, at this point, when you’re unwilling to or incapable of pushing back on bad ideas?

Re: The 49MB web page

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It’s hard to beat https://lite.cnn.com and https://text.npr.org (I imagine their own employees likely use these as well) or https://newsminimalist.com

I’m honestly dumbfounded that these exist In the past some site had light versions, but I haven’t come across one in over 10 years Makes me wonder if this isn’t just some rogue employee maintaining this without anyone else realizing it It’s the light version, but ironically I would happily pay these ad networks a monthly $20 to just serve these lite pages and not track me. They don’t make anywhere close to that from…

a lot of these are internal tools that they just haven't disabled access to for whatever reason. old.reddit still exists for whatever reason.

Re: The 49MB web page

#197
Oh yeah, that old topic. We’ve already discussed this back when text-heavy websites started reaching megabyte sizes. So I’m going to go look for the posts in this thread that try to explain and defend that. I’m especially looking forward to the discussions about whether ad blocking is theft or morally reprehensible. If those are still around.

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Our developers managed to run around 750MB per website open once. They have put in ticket with ops that the server is slow and could we look at it. So we looked. Every single video on a page with long video list pre-loaded a part of it. The single reason the site didn't ran like shit for them is coz office had direct fiber to out datacenter few blocks away. We really shouldn't allow web developers more than 128kbit o…

Peanuts! My wife’s workplace has an internal photo gallery page. If your device can cope with it and you wait long enough, it’ll load about 14GB of images (so far). In practice, it will crawl along badly and eventually just crash your browser (or more), especially if you’re on a phone.

The single-line change of adding loading=lazy to the elements wouldn’t fix everything, but it would make the page at least basically usable.

Re: The 49MB web page

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Our developers managed to run around 750MB per website open once. They have put in ticket with ops that the server is slow and could we look at it. So we looked. Every single video on a page with long video list pre-loaded a part of it. The single reason the site didn't ran like shit for them is coz office had direct fiber to out datacenter few blocks away. We really shouldn't allow web developers more than 128kbit o…

PSA for those who aren’t aware: Chromium/Firefox-based browsers have a Network tab in the developer tools where you can dial down your bandwidth to simulate a slower 3G or 4G connection. Combined with CPU throttling, it's a decent sanity check to see how well your site will perform on more modest setups.

For Firefox users, here's where it's hidden (and it really is hidden): Hamburger menu -> More tools -> Web developer tools, then keep clicking on the ">>" until the Network tab appears, then scroll over on about the third menu bar down until you see "No throttling", that's a combobox that lets you set the speed you want.

Alternatively, run uBlock Origin and NoScript and you probably won't need it.

Re: The 49MB web page

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Our developers managed to run around 750MB per website open once. They have put in ticket with ops that the server is slow and could we look at it. So we looked. Every single video on a page with long video list pre-loaded a part of it. The single reason the site didn't ran like shit for them is coz office had direct fiber to out datacenter few blocks away. We really shouldn't allow web developers more than 128kbit o…

> We really shouldn't allow web developers more than 128kbit Marketing dept. too. They're the primary culprits in all the tracking scripts.

You can still make a site unusable without having it load lots of data. Go to https://bunnings.com.au on a phone and try looking up an item. It's actually faster to walk around the store and find an employee and get them to look it up on an in-store terminal than it is to use their web site to find something. A quick visit to profiles.firefox.com indicates it's probably more memory than CPU, half a gigabyte of memory consumed if I'm interpreting the graphical bling correctly.
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