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Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by nirava »

huddert wrote: post #189
nirava wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even 50hz is fine. I'd go so far as to say, barring any medical or sensitivity issue, if any person prioritizes a 120hz screen they are a victim to habit or marketing. It adds zero value to the experience, and you're just looking for things to be annoyed by / brag about. Modern displays are already cutting edge. They have improved in every way that's meaningful in the last 35 years. Refresh rate is just not meaningfu…

"Even 4gb of memory is fine", "even 720p is fine", "even 2ghz CPU is fine", "even a membrane keyboard is fine", "even USB 2.0 is fine", "even 2 hours battery life is fine"... Yeah it's all "fine". If these were the specs of the only laptop available to me then yeah it would be "fine". I could get things done. One or more of those things are deal-breakers for an awful lot of people. For me, a rubbish display is a deal…

You're entitled to your preferences. In my opinion:

Functional: - battery life - screen resolution (binary, 2k for laptops), brightness (binary: works in the sun or not), viewing angles (binary: good enough vs not), color (binary, good enough vs not) etc - connectivity options - ram - build quality etc etc

Aesthetic: - color - finish - refresh rate - OS theming, animations and all that - material

When you say "why won't they do 120hz?" I hear "Why won't they release a magenta colored device". That's fundamentally different than "why won't they add usb c"

I don't think there's any value in 120hz. Nearly all content I consume is in 30-60 fps anyway. I don't need to see marginally smoother os animatations lol and thats nearly all 120hz is good for.

PS Gamers might actually functionally need high refresh rates. I'm not in that space, but I recognise that for some specializations it might be absolutely deal-breaker.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by ahartmetz »

Guestmodinfo wrote: post #48

I have used not thinkpads but Lenovo IdeaPad from 2023. Very fragile. It has caused me to run many times to the repair shops. Whereas Lenovo laptops (non Thinkpads) from 2007 and 2021 are very solid nearly unbreakable.

Only the expensive business models of Lenovo are known for their quality. Their cheap models are as bad as any other company's.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by nirava »

hulitu wrote: post #171
nirava wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even 50hz is fine. I'd go so far as to say, barring any medical or sensitivity issue, if any person prioritizes a 120hz screen they are a victim to habit or marketing. It adds zero value to the experience, and you're just looking for things to be annoyed by / brag about. Modern displays are already cutting edge. They have improved in every way that's meaningful in the last 35 years. Refresh rate is just not meaningfu…

> Refresh rate is just not meaningful enough. Until the bloody compositor updates the screen based on it or worse based on half of it.

:single_tear_frowning_emoji:

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by ahartmetz »

dismalaf wrote: post #157
brikym wrote: post #42

No thanks. I don't like all their awful plastic. Make it from metal and glass.

Metal and glass are overrated. Glass cracks, metal bends and stays bent... Plastic, especially high quality plastics combined with a magnesium chassis in a ThinkPad, is way more durable.

Yup. I got an otherwise really nice laptop with a metal shell... it's not very pleasant to touch. Thinkpads have cases that feel better to touch and make me worry less about dropping the thing.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by akvadrako »

sam_lowry_ wrote: post #187

What about sleep mode? Anyone measured power draw in sleep mode in newer Thinkpads? From what I understand, Gen 2 was the last one to have S3, and newer versions with si0x will have higher power consumption in sleep mode, right?

I don't know why you say that. I've measured Linux sleep power consumption for Lenovo and ASUS laptops over the past 10 years and S3 and si0x come pretty close.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by aitchnyu »

Terr_ wrote: post #2

> LPCAMM2 memory that’s fast, efficient, and easily serviced [0] Today I Learned about LPCAMM2, which is refreshing, seeing soldered-on memory always felt like some kind of slide into disposable barbarism. [0] https://www.ifixit.com/News/95078/lpcamm2-memory-is-finally-...

Can we expect laptops with removable memory modules to stay on top of AI workload benchmark?

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by aitchnyu »

kiddico wrote: post #77
carefree-bob wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you think of the build quality of your Framework? Have you had any issues over the last 3 years?

I'm rocking a framework 13" intel 12th gen still and I love it. The only issue I had was being part of the few that got a batch of bad hinges. I didn't know there was a replacement program I could have used and just replaced them myself with the heavier hinge option. At this point I have every expansion port thing they offer and keep them in my bag. My laptop can have any I/O I want :) pretty cool.

Hows hibernate on those machines? Never did in on an SSD/NVME.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by russianGuy83829 »

vbezhenar wrote: post #76
tombert wrote: post #51

I have the ThinkPad p16s AMD gen 2. What it lacks in name it makes up for with being the most headache-free computer I have ever had (including a Macbook). Everything works pretty well out of the box, it never really overheats, Linux support required basically no effort with NixOS, the keyboard feels pretty nice, the screen is bright and easy to read, and fortunately I bought it when RAM prices weren't insane so I go…

I own T14s Gen4 Intel and Linux support is perfect, even fingerprint reader works. Zero complaints. I'm mostly using it in clamshell mode connected via USB-C to display with backwards charging, it all just works! I'm also using secureboot with my keys, I cleared all MS keys and it didn't brick the laptop. My only grievance is a bit buggy firmware. When I turn laptop on or reboot, speakers will randomly be muted (not…

Not sure if its intel specific, but for the amd variants you can download an .iso instead of an .exe and boot from that to upgrade. No need for windows

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by petepete »

WD-42 wrote: post #10

This is great. I’m still rocking a nearly 10 year old T470s. Great machine with Linux on it, still snappy enough- Tailscale is there when I need to do serious work (on my desktop at home!) I replaced the batteries a few months ago and it was painless.

I use my 2019 X1C 7th Gen daily and it's been the best laptop I've owned by a mile. Never skipped a beat.

I immediately switched it to Fedora and everything worked out of the box except the fingerprint reader which started working a few weeks later after a firmware update (also handled effortlessly/perfectly within Gnome - and it still gets updates!)

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